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I think you'd be told to stop if caught. I've tried it myself and found it terrifying.
Nowhere near as bad being towed by another bike.
"Safest" and easiest way is to hold onto the cars roof. Or for another bike to "push" the broken one by means of a foot on the pillion peg.
Oddly, it seems the best place for the rope is on the rider. Next best is attached to the headstock. When I say attached, I mean not tied. So either sitting on the end or wrapped round you/the headstock then held against the bar by one hand so it releases if you let go.
If you were going to buy/make something to tow a bike with a car for a short distance, a towing dolly that attaches to the front wheel would be best. Or putting the front wheel in the boot and lashing it down.
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| Posted: 09:45 - 11 May 2020 Post subject: Re: Towing a motorcycle using a car. |
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| Gazz wrote: | Anyone know what the law is regarding this? |
It's not allowed (told by an police inspector some years ago). If you must do it, take the rope/cord a turn around the handlebars for instance, if accessible (NO *not* at one end, in the middle...), and hang on to the long loose end as you move off slowly (else the jolt will pull iout of your hand). If anything goes wrong, let go. It's very dodgy. You can, I think, tow a motorbike with another motorbike, same technique, even more dodgy.
EDIT: Actually, I dimly remember an answer to this. Hang on.
EDIT: OK here we are, the nice Cornish police inspector may have been right, unsure but the law changes:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/made
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) Regulations 2012
Statutory Instruments
1986 No. 1078
ROAD TRAFFIC
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986
Made 25th June 1986
Laid before Parliament 18th July 1986
Coming into Operation 11th August 1986
Trailers drawn by motor cycles
84.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, on a road a motor cycle—
(a)drawing behind it more than one trailer;
(b)drawing behind it any trailer carrying a passenger;
(c)drawing behind it a trailer with an unladen weight exceeding 254 kg;
(d)with not more than 2 wheels, without a sidecar, and with an engine capacity which does not exceed 125 cc, drawing behind it any trailer; or
(e)with not more than 2 wheels, without a sidecar and with an engine capacity exceeding 125 cc, drawing behind it any trailer unless—
(i) the trailer has an overall width not exceeding 1 m;
(ii) the distance between the rear axle of the motor cycle and the rearmost part of the trailer does not exceed 2.5 m;
(iii) the motor cycle is clearly and indelibly marked in a conspicuous and readily accessible position with its kerbside weight;
(iv) the trailer is clearly and indelibly marked in a conspicuous and readily accessible position with its unladen weight; and
(v) the laden weight of the trailer does not exceed 150 kg or two thirds of the kerbside weight of the motor cycle, whichever is the less.
(2) The provisions of paragraph (1)(b), (d) and (e) do not apply if the trailer is a broken down motorcycle and one passenger is riding it.
So there you are. However, I would not tie the rope to the bike, let alone tie it or have it wrapped around the rider, and slow is the word! |
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| Posted: 11:54 - 11 May 2020 Post subject: Re: Towing a motorcycle using a car. |
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| Riejufixing wrote: | | Gazz wrote: | Anyone know what the law is regarding this? |
It's not allowed (told by an police inspector some years ago). If you must do it, take the rope/cord a turn around the handlebars for instance, if accessible (NO *not* at one end, in the middle...), and hang on to the long loose end as you move off slowly (else the jolt will pull iout of your hand). If anything goes wrong, let go. It's very dodgy. You can, I think, tow a motorbike with another motorbike, same technique, even more dodgy.
EDIT: Actually, I dimly remember an answer to this. Hang on.
EDIT: OK here we are, the nice Cornish police inspector may have been right, unsure but the law changes:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/made
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) (Amendment) Regulations 2012
Statutory Instruments
1986 No. 1078
ROAD TRAFFIC
The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986
Made 25th June 1986
Laid before Parliament 18th July 1986
Coming into Operation 11th August 1986
Trailers drawn by motor cycles
84.—(1) Save as provided in paragraph (2), no person shall use, or cause or permit to be used, on a road a motor cycle—
(a)drawing behind it more than one trailer;
(b)drawing behind it any trailer carrying a passenger;
(c)drawing behind it a trailer with an unladen weight exceeding 254 kg;
(d)with not more than 2 wheels, without a sidecar, and with an engine capacity which does not exceed 125 cc, drawing behind it any trailer; or
(e)with not more than 2 wheels, without a sidecar and with an engine capacity exceeding 125 cc, drawing behind it any trailer unless—
(i) the trailer has an overall width not exceeding 1 m;
(ii) the distance between the rear axle of the motor cycle and the rearmost part of the trailer does not exceed 2.5 m;
(iii) the motor cycle is clearly and indelibly marked in a conspicuous and readily accessible position with its kerbside weight;
(iv) the trailer is clearly and indelibly marked in a conspicuous and readily accessible position with its unladen weight; and
(v) the laden weight of the trailer does not exceed 150 kg or two thirds of the kerbside weight of the motor cycle, whichever is the less.
(2) The provisions of paragraph (1)(b), (d) and (e) do not apply if the trailer is a broken down motorcycle and one passenger is riding it.
So there you are. However, I would not tie the rope to the bike, let alone tie it or have it wrapped around the rider, and slow is the word! |
So, does that mean that you are allowed to tow a broken down bike with another bike but not using a car? |
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| Posted: 12:02 - 11 May 2020 Post subject: |
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For your convenience, here's a clickable link to the regulations about towing trailers using a motorcycle: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1986/1078/made
It doesn't say you can't tow a motorcycle with a car but that's probably because it's not about towing things using a car.  Plus there doesn't seem to be about using a tow rope. |
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I've seen it done once, many years ago. The bike was towed along the A13 and tried to go round the five bells roundabout at Laindon at which point it went over and got towed another 100m or so on its side in a shower of sparks with the rider rolling along after it followed by loud cheers from the crown of bikers at the burger van. Well it was entertaining...
I took that as a hint and have never bothered to try but apparently, the best way is for the rider to hold the rope. No thanks, I'll use the RAC. |
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I don't know about a car towing a bike, but this looks pretty cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8qdNdFMgRI
I would love to see the guys face when that turns up to recover him.
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