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kramdra
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: 675's? Reply with quote

Looking at bikes, and I want a 675 Daytona. I'll be doing 15k a year and want it too last a good few years. Question is are they reliable enough? What goes wrong on these? Do valve clearances need frequent checking?

Do any of them have a factory immobiliser?
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive always been lusting after one too, but everytime I sit on one, I doubt my body could take the abuse Very Happy Unless track or sunday blasting, its a very aggressive position.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats no problem, Im not fat and old yet Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been seriously considering one too for the past month or so but it's one of those bikes I think I will have to test ride before deciding for sure, which seems a strange thing to say because most normal people test ride any bike before purchasing but not me, I have never test ridden a bike in my life. Weirdo. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 12:42 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they are reliable. You just need to ensure the oil is topped up. There are two different dipsticks, the 'old' and the 'new'. The 'old' dipstick had the 'max' line where the 'min' line should really be, so check which one it has. They are different lengths.

The reg-recs were ropey but should have been fixed under warranty.

Otherwise if you can take the pain they are good bikes. For 15000 miles a year? I'd go Street Triple R instead, but for sunday blasts and trackdays it'd be the Daytona every time.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Street is too ugly. Needs to be a sports.

So they drink oil? Thats not good I dont want to be checking oil every day. Cbr6 never lost a drop.
Reg is no problem I have a good one.
What are exhaust headers like? Cbr6 ones just rot, they cant take winter abuse.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
Street is too ugly. Needs to be a sports.

So they drink oil? Thats not good I dont want to be checking oil every day. Cbr6 never lost a drop.
Reg is no problem I have a good one.
What are exhaust headers like? Cbr6 ones just rot, they cant take winter abuse.


The early ones use a bit, mine hasn't used a drop though. The issue is not so much oil consumption as an error in the required oil capacity from the beginning.

The replacement Triumph unit is good, and it should have been done under recall anyway.

Exhaust headers are OK I think, mine has a titanium arrow system on it so it's never worried me.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't possibly comment in a thread in which the op thinks the Street is ugly.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
I couldn't possibly comment in a thread in which the op thinks the Street is ugly.


Yeah, I was a touch put out by that myself.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Partially forgiven though I suppose when I consider my bike can't really hold a candle to this.


https://i.postimg.cc/YCBYtPQK/123.png
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
Partially forgiven though I suppose when I consider my bike can't really hold a candle to this.


https://i.postimg.cc/YCBYtPQK/123.png


Nah. Don't like the pearl, and the decal at the bottom is hideous.

I prefer the original model in black.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a very 'perched' position. Nothing like a CBR600F, nowhere close.

It is razor sharp handling wise, but doing 15k a year and killing it slowly will mean it won't be as sharp later on but obviously refurb = better.

It is a Street in a dress, I had more fun on the Street. I'd have a Daytona but I wouldn't if I was doing those miles routinely. There is just something about it that makes me think no, likely the riding position.

I ride my GSXR, I'd happily ride it daily, its a cruiser in comparison.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
Partially forgiven though I suppose when I consider my bike can't really hold a candle to this.


https://i.postimg.cc/YCBYtPQK/123.png


I have to agree. That is stunning. Wub
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/a2/b3/79a2b3d11137542fc269aafa070ea8bc.jpg

This is nicer.

But I do like my Street:



https://cdn.bcf.44bytes.net/files/street_triple_tonys.jpg
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok the street is ugly reminds me of cx500 maggot fairing however I like the simplicity of it. Throw it down the road and nothing much to replace.

Do either of them have immobilisers? I think the older ones did not, maybe new ones do?
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

kramdra wrote:
Do either of them have immobilisers?



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You can steal the older pre-2013 ones with no tools. Just snap wires and twist.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 14 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

a mate of mine had a Daytona, did a little swap one afternoon. Was waaaay too cramped for me, was nimble and quick, but was quite happy to give it back.

I have considered swapping my K1200S for a Speed Triple though...
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Borrowed a Daytona for a day.....its very leany forward, neck was in trouble after 30 minutes.

Degrees of lean as per https://cycle-ergo.com/
Street 18
CBR600F 25
GSXR1000 38
Daytona 41

Immobiliser is 2013 onwards as was the upgraded RegRec

I've done 32k miles, not used a drop of oil.

The oil heat exchanger. There are some reports of people blowing engines on hot trackdays because its not man enough for the job.
They tend to fit a billet replacement.
Not really an issue on a road bike. I went through Europe in 35c weather on autobahns at 10krpm for hours a couple of years ago, survived. Done a few Santa Pod days also.

Wiring loom at the headstock. The protection around the wires is inadequate and it sliced through the wires over time. Found it as my high beam was flickering on/off by itself.
I think Moxey on here had the same issue.

I checked my valves early at 11k, they were all on the tight end of spec. I re-shimmed them to middle / looser end of spec.
Checked again 25k miles and they hadn't budged and thats on car engine oil (Total Quartz 10w50).
It does require a Triumph tool to re-set the cam sprockets if you're doing it as per the manual on the first valve check.

A brilliant bike. If mine dies and I have the money, won't hesitate to get another.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically go sit on one. They are torture racks and I love sport bikes...
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why Triumph ought to build a pretty half faired Street Triple with a 20litre tank for sports touring.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
This is why Triumph ought to build a pretty half faired Street Triple with a 20litre tank for sports touring.


I sort of half agree, but by the time you've made a decent sport tourer out of it, you'd no longer have a Street Triple. I just face the fact that it doesn't make the best sports tourer, and accept it for what it is. The Street Triple is an iconic bike. You can't mess about with an icon too much, or you lose everything that makes it that.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
MarJay wrote:
This is why Triumph ought to build a pretty half faired Street Triple with a 20litre tank for sports touring.


I sort of half agree, but by the time you've made a decent sport tourer out of it, you'd no longer have a Street Triple. I just face the fact that it doesn't make the best sports tourer, and accept it for what it is. The Street Triple is an iconic bike. You can't mess about with an icon too much, or you lose everything that makes it that.


Why not do it and offer it as a Sprint 765? A separate model? R&D cost would be minimal.
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, basically you are saying Triumph need to make a decent new sport tourer. The 765 engine would make more sense simply because you have a bit more go. But a larger fuel tank (a quick look shows me even the 765 currently only has a 17.4l capacity) and a fairing is starting to pile on the pounds. Sports tourers are compromises - it's in the name. You certainly wouldn't be getting all the traits that make the Street Triple such a popular bike. That doesn't mean, of course, that you wouldn't get a good bike.
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PostPosted: 13:29 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Yes, basically you are saying Triumph need to make a decent new sport tourer. The 765 engine would make more sense simply because you have a bit more go. But a larger fuel tank (a quick look shows me even the 765 currently only has a 17.4l capacity) and a fairing is starting to pile on the pounds. Sports tourers are compromises - it's in the name. You certainly wouldn't be getting all the traits that make the Street Triple such a popular bike. That doesn't mean, of course, that you wouldn't get a good bike.


The 765 street weighs 160kg dry or something. A few KGs on fairing and larger tank, keep everything else the same, or maybe just put a bit more padding on the seat. It would cost about £5 R&D but would sell a shedload.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 15 May 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


The 765 street weighs 160kg dry or something. A few KGs on fairing and larger tank, keep everything else the same, or maybe just put a bit more padding on the seat. It would cost about £5 R&D but would sell a shedload.


But once you add a fairing and a larger, heavier fuel load, you change the dynamics. Then if you really want it to work well, you're chasing other stuff around to adapt for that - ergonomics, geometry etc. Then you've got a whole different bike.
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