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Ste Not Work Safe
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Posted: 17:46 - 21 May 2020 Post subject: |
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Paying dividends isn't a trick or tax avoiding. People with their own limited companies get to decide if they want dividends or to be paid as a normal employee. It's up to them to decide what's right for their personal situation.
Anyway, nobody wants to pay more tax than they have to. |
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Posted: 21:11 - 21 May 2020 Post subject: |
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I'm on furlough and really want to get back to work.
Feel like I'm contributing nothing to society (apart from giving my nephew maths/science lessons).
Plus the temptations towards alcohol are all too great |
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kramdra wrote: | Have not been watching the news and work has not given any information. What is happening with the furlough scheme? Is pay being reduced, or made up by employers? |
I don't know, but someone I do know has just gone back to work after 4 months, so it is fair to assume we have reached the point where furlough requires employers to contribute now. ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Posted: 09:36 - 29 Jul 2020 Post subject: Re: Furlough. |
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MilfHunter wrote: | Anyone else hoping to stay on the gravy train until it derails in October?
I've had my seat on the gravy train since March and I have no intentions of getting off at the next station to return to work unless the ticket inspector physically drags me off because that is what it is going to take to get me back to work.
I have to say getting stoned all day and getting paid 2.5K a month to do so is wonderful.
Choo choo...... |
It’d be terrible if you go back to work shortly and find that your job isn’t there anymore - as happened to my friend yesterday- and that the ‘gravy train’ makes you redundant....
Fingers crossed! |
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I was furloughed until June, first two weeks were okay, out on the bike with little traffic, then I got bored, hubby got furloughed a month in to lockdown but had signed a contract to start a new job beginning of this month. He got told the job was no longer available so is now unemployed and where I work is making people redundant but worryingly, a number of people myself included are being disciplined for stuff that weve apparently done wrong with no warning, i went from i dont like the tone of that email to a written warning and capibility meeting with a month PIP which i knew id not manage, my colleague was suspended for stopping at a garden centre to pick something up on the way home in a company vehicle this on top of a final written warning for gross misconduct , people are being demoted and put on 3 month trial periods fortheir new positions etc, all very shady and concerning. Im not sure any of this is very legit, im too tired of the shit to fight them. ____________________ Do not presume that I am male. |
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I was chatting with a financial bloke over the weekend. The sort of cvnt that regards workers as commodities to use and abuse as required (while picking up his 100's of 1000's in bonuses ).
He said the furlough was a total waste of time and companies that couldn't have kept people on the payrole at the start without government help won't be able to do it now.
His very callous view was the government should have just let companies keep or make redundant workers and put people on the dole, not on furlough.
Now I don't know enough about it all but I can see his point with the amount of people being sacked now the scheme is coming to and end. Did the gov just put off the inevitable or did furlough save jobs?
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Polarbear wrote: | Anyone know? |
I wouldn't claim to know but from what I've seen I'd not argue with him.
My company furloughed nobody, we grew during the plague. Though I suspect our pain is yet to come as much of our customer base is showing signs of suffering. I'm in the kind of management role that will be first to take a bullet if it does go to shit.
My wife (accountant) was furloughed for 3 months. Was it because her work didn't exist? No. They just let it pile up and then when they needed her back they furloughed someone else . To me that is abuse of the furlough, it was utilised as temporary cost cutting (Tax payer funded holiday). Her company is now looking to make a massive series of redundancies next month and another in January. So clearly their actual business has imploded and they used furlough because..... well why not?
If what my wife is seeing is indicative of how furlough has been used then, my opinion, yes it's been a massive piss away of money that people don't seem to realise isn't free, we are going to be working till we drop to pay it all off and the benefits it brought are too short term to be worth the cost.
I think it was a populist move to stop riots due to mass unemployment. I'd bet we will still get the mass unemployment just now it will happen over a slightly longer period, so less angry people googling how to make molotovs at the same time.
I suppose there is also an arguement that this exposing how much fat many firms had developed, bloated overgrown teams and management layers. Now when the chips are down and everyone is shitting it about losing their jobs you can trim the fat blaming the Plague and know that those you retained are so scared of losing their job they will bust out silly levels of work to pick up the pieces.
I think if furlough was an analogy it would be you sitting on the crapper, hearing the nuclear warning and sticking bits of bog roll to the window to protect from the blast. Be funny if it wasn't the worlds most expensive bog roll.
Again this is just the (limited) view I've had. I'm sure there will be plenty of more positive examples.
TLDR - Populist move, been abused, probably not worth long term cost. Economy is going to fall in to a steaming pile of crap anyway. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 237 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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