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PostPosted: 20:52 - 04 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fixing stuck thread...

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PostPosted: 10:56 - 13 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.today.com/parents/parents/little-mermaid-see-precious-reactions-rcna47271?cid=sm_npd_td_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR1n1VsZZvam1wag33LxqQdamO9rPeiEpS0CCbzU9J9E2hM1h1meelOsVV8

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“She looks like me”: Young girls have sweetest reaction to new “Little Mermaid” trailer.

Except they didn’t say that, it’s the parents projecting ‘representation’ on them. The main character is half fish so I doubt the kids are focussed on her skin colour, but they’re being told it should be important to them.

Predictably the Facebook reaction showed no one had read further than the title and any dissent was met with, “Racist!”
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 13 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Critical Drinker recently did a piece on this:

https://youtu.be/ngqO9Hp19_4

IMO one of the downsides of prioritising indoctrination over education is the previous dribble of quality writers and directors Hollywood would have had has dried up*. And anyone with a bright, creative mind probably doesn't have the correct politics for Hollywood today.

What to do? Paper over the cracks apparently! To cover for the lack of talent in storytelling with faux-outrage at public criticism. Critical Drinker suggests the genesis was the vapid 2016 version of Ghostbusters but the technique of talking up twoddle I would say goes back to art-house cinema with copious chin stroking and pontification on "the film's message."

One could argue that the film industry is "systematically racist" and ask how any of the brown people will get experience if we don't give 'em a chance! Racist bollox: Indian cinema is doing very nicely, thank you very much.

But a black mermaid? It doesn't make any sense! If you spent half the time under the sea you'd want to hoover up as much Vitamin D as you can get. It makes the proposition of black elves almost look reasonable Rolling Eyes

*In Hertford, Hereford and Hampshire, hurricanes hardly ever happen.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 13 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
https://www.today.com/parents/parents/little-mermaid-see-precious-reactions-rcna47271?cid=sm_npd_td_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR1n1VsZZvam1wag33LxqQdamO9rPeiEpS0CCbzU9J9E2hM1h1meelOsVV8

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“She looks like me”: Young girls have sweetest reaction to new “Little Mermaid” trailer.

Except they didn’t say that, it’s the parents projecting ‘representation’ on them. The main character is half fish so I doubt the kids are focussed on her skin colour, but they’re being told it should be important to them.

Predictably the Facebook reaction showed no one had read further than the title and any dissent was met with, “Racist!”

I genuinely burst out laughing when I saw this image...
https://external-preview.redd.it/4mAx9CL-ZH90XUAcvJUu8rUtJNKVd2JadQh2bBYF7lA.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=ea5b8a391e55daa0364a84d99eef396ef1f36946
...then I came across it later in the day and it got me again Laughing

It's yet another contradiction, race isn't important so you shouldn't care about race (or gender) swapped characters, even though they scream about it when it happens the other way round, yet apparently race is so important you're unable to enjoy a film or series if you aren't 'represented'.

Shit film, had no white or black people in...
https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b917a82c4befa26a60e68dff6a253e8f-lq
...it was brilliant.

Easy-X wrote:
The Critical Drinker recently did a piece on this:

https://youtu.be/ngqO9Hp19_4

IMO one of the downsides of prioritising indoctrination over education is the previous dribble of quality writers and directors Hollywood would have had has dried up*. And anyone with a bright, creative mind probably doesn't have the correct politics for Hollywood today.

What to do? Paper over the cracks apparently! To cover for the lack of talent in storytelling with faux-outrage at public criticism. Critical Drinker suggests the genesis was the vapid 2016 version of Ghostbusters but the technique of talking up twoddle I would say goes back to art-house cinema with copious chin stroking and pontification on "the film's message."

One could argue that the film industry is "systematically racist" and ask how any of the brown people will get experience if we don't give 'em a chance! Racist bollox: Indian cinema is doing very nicely, thank you very much.

But a black mermaid? It doesn't make any sense! If you spent half the time under the sea you'd want to hoover up as much Vitamin D as you can get. It makes the proposition of black elves almost look reasonable Rolling Eyes

*In Hertford, Hereford and Hampshire, hurricanes hardly ever happen.

He seemed to be suggesting it was all orchestrated, that they bait fans for publicity which I don't agree with. The promoting of 'diversity' with Rangz of Power (for example) is a call to all the shitlib activists to support the show, what they'd love is all fans to just accept it.

Crying racism is just what they do 24/7, whilst ignoring that they're the ones who bring the focus on race (again we're meant to just accept it and applaud), as they believe as long as you tick diversity boxes, have your political narratives, and pass the bechdel test (yes that's a real thing...) it's job done.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 13 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I genuinely burst out laughing when I saw this image...


There’s nothing wrong with having a black mermaid per se, but the insistence that there should be one, and the inability to empathise or enjoy a fictional character without lamenting, “She isn’t like me,” makes no sense.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 13 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
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I genuinely burst out laughing when I saw this image...


There’s nothing wrong with having a black mermaid per se, but the insistence that there should be one, and the inability to empathise or enjoy a fictional character without lamenting, “She isn’t like me,” makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense if you yourself have a strong racial bias. As I mentioned, they set the rules, race (or gender) swapping characters is not acceptable, unless you're replacing a white character apparently.

For me it definitely shouldn't happen when races or characters are clearly described, like I dunno Elves in LOTR or Valyrians in GoT/HoTD...
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^Valyrians are famous for having silver-gold (platinum blonde) hair, very pale skin, and violet-purple eyes.

Occasionally they'll be 'smart' about it, like in Spiderman, where Mary Jane Watson is now Michelle Jones-Watson... OMG COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHARACTER, although most of the time they don't even bother doing that.
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 14 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come out with an original production - "Wakanda Forever!" - ppl seem to lap it up. Deliberately race swap a known character (fictional or historic, it matters not) just to score brownie-points and with the deliberate intent of race-baiting fans? What's to stop ppl from cancelling subscriptions and taking their money elsewhere, white guilt?!

Surely time to work in a WEF conspiracy: "You will own nothing [of your own culture 'cos we stole it] and you will be happy [or we'll woke-scold you till you are]" which in itself is a re-work of the classic "the beatings will continue until morale improves." Sad
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 15 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Come out with an original production - "Wakanda Forever!" - ppl seem to lap it up.

Nothing has ever been shilled as hard as Black Panther Laughing, but I'd rather see a film full of diversity aimed at diversities, than the apparent need to 'fix' every other show and film franchise.

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Deliberately race swap a known character (fictional or historic, it matters not) just to score brownie-points and with the deliberate intent of race-baiting fans?

Well it matters as their justification is "oh it's a fictional character", and then...

https://ethicsalarms.files.wordpress.com/2021/06/black-boleyn.jpeg?w=640

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What's to stop ppl from cancelling subscriptions and taking their money elsewhere, white guilt?!

People are depressingly apathetic, but in general they seem perfectly fine killing franchises, and harming the profitability of others as long as they can push their agenda.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 15 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't take any mermaid stuff seriously since Red Dwarf. The Cat's fantasy is sex with a mermaid (he's obsessed with fish) "Shouldn't the top half be a woman and the bottom half a fish?"

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"Nah, that'd be stupid!" Sometimes you need a child-mind to understand the simple mechanics Smile

Anyhoo, unrelated to this there is an answer to the "you can't tell a private company who or what they're allowed to censor" (without going back to the tenuous "actually the governments are indirectly controlling the private institutions" as that's too many dots to join up for most people) and it comes from the Industrial Revolution and Company Towns.

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Companies exerting a tight, paternalistic control over the residents' behaviour and even opinions caused issues and concern.


I don't know whether we can rummage back through history for solutions but it's at least gratifying to see we've been here before.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 15 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

*checks age of the little mermaid before we discuss what we would do to her*

Dance!
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 15 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to burst your balloon but.....


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PostPosted: 19:15 - 15 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But what? That's Gabriella from the series, Halle Bailey is playing Ariel?
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 15 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
*checks age of the little mermaid before we discuss what we would do to her*

Dance!

"The Little Mermaid Ariel is not so little anymore! She knows what she wants and goes to get it right away! Now that she has her new body - including long legs, cute wiggling toes and some very fun exciting tight holes - she wants to try it out!

By caressing and pinching and slapping her new body, she realizes she can make gasps and moans of pleasure, even though Ursula stole her voice. With a little Disney Princess help from her seagull friend, she gets her hands on a couple dildos to get an even bigger vocal reaction out of her body.

Can Ariel cum hard enough to get her voice back? If anything will do it, it's deepthroating one dildo while taking another bigger one in her tight, new pussy!"

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PostPosted: 23:44 - 15 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't blame them, I'm sick of seeing rainbows everywhere as well. Laughing

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PostPosted: 01:02 - 16 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Don't blame them, I'm sick of seeing rainbows everywhere as well. Laughing

https://www.facebook.com/reel/366194175615043

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PostPosted: 01:39 - 16 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Polarbear wrote:
Don't blame them, I'm sick of seeing rainbows everywhere as well. Laughing

https://www.facebook.com/reel/366194175615043

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Ah fcuk. My bad.
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PostPosted: 01:45 - 16 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checked it via a failbook video downloader, it's the homophobic horses from a while back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO0pgn62wcM Laughing

I wonder how much that one cost... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10262115/Cash-strapped-Camden-Council-spent-10-000-taxpayers-cash-inclusive-trans-road-crossings.html
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 16 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never checked the date. I just found it mildly amusing.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 18 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://twitter.com/Lewis_Brackpool/status/1568916605224067072

Stumbled upon this. No idea who the guy is. Police work 2022 Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 18 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
https://twitter.com/Lewis_Brackpool/status/1568916605224067072

Stumbled upon this. No idea who the guy is. Police work 2022 Laughing


They also sent a couple officers to visit him "for a friendly word" but he was out.

It's a bit difficult to say with Voice of Wales whether the harassment is targeted (VoW is universally hated by the establishment for not being ideologically captured, the whole Body Snatchers thing) or if it's the specific article that triggered such a response. And AFAIK the offending phrase was "undocumented alien" - even more banal than "illegal alien" - which causes me to wonder.
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 18 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://tnc.news/2022/09/13/green-misgender/


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The Green Party of Canada (GPC) is in complete disarray after interim leader Amita Kuttner was “misgendered” during a leadership race launch.

Kuttner who identifies as non-binary and goes by the pronouns “they/them” appeared on screen during a Sept. 3 announcement with the pronouns “she/elle.”


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The interim leader called the incident “misgendering,” calling it “reflective of a larger pattern of behaviours that a few in the party are perpetuating.”

“In moments like these I wonder – how can I ensure other people’s safety if I can’t even ensure my own?”


Honestly, how can anyone even think of voting for someone that feels unsafe because of wrong pronouns?

Ironically, of course, if we were just back in the good old days before the option on social media to add your pronouns, then there wouldn't have been an issue.
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 18 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always think back to my childhood. On the bus down to town with my Nan (before she lost her marbles) and she'd spy some punk rocker with a pink Mohican, jab me in the ribs and stifle a titter. Unsaid: "get her!" or "who do they think they are?" but always the undertone was bemusement.

But it's now as serious and relentless as the Borg: "Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile." Declaring pronouns is a similar challenge: your culture has been dismantled, you will pander to my every whim no matter how absurd. Any dissent will be viewed as an attack on the Collective and therefore violence.

This has to be the most egregious challenge (till the next at least)

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PostPosted: 17:46 - 19 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the actual fuck is that Pale
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 19 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

M.C wrote:
What the actual fuck is that Pale

Easy-X wrote:
my Nan (before she lost her marbles)

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PostPosted: 00:29 - 20 Sep 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
M.C wrote:
What the actual fuck is that Pale

Easy-X wrote:
my Nan (before she lost her marbles)

Wub


LMAO, no... teacher in Canada. Turned up one day like that and "school management very supportive" etc.
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