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PostPosted: 19:24 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My guess is it's a reference to Ordinary Men by Browning.


Ah so Browning is considered to be a holocaust denier to an extent.


I think you might have missed the point of the book. Have you read it?
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I know its about how people in Poland said 'only following orders' and I also know that David Irving called him as part of his libel claim that he lost.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, here's the full photo, it certainly doesn't mean anything to me. In what context was this written?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEvDm4xXwAcJPwD.jpg
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Well, here's the full photo, it certainly doesn't mean anything to me. In what context was this written?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEvDm4xXwAcJPwD.jpg



Ah.

Now it makes sense.

Equating vaccination with the holocaust.
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

The husband of a woman at work died yesterday after being in intensive care for weeks entirely due to Covid. They had decided not to get vaccinations. She is left with a boy and a girl aged 3 and 6 years. Tragic.
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Still doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.


For a given value of making sense.

The rabid tinfoil hatters are equating vaccination mandates with the holocaust, whereas us normal people say 'fine, don't get vaccinated, but stay the fuck away from the rest of us.'
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
The rabid tinfoil hatters are equating vaccination mandates with the holocaust,

They probably are, but accepting government advice by agreeing to resist a virus en-masse is such a loooong way from agreeing to exterminate a section of society and violate neighbouring countries, it’s a risible comparison. But that’s Marcus for you.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats Marcus Paul Donkersley for you.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

The holocaust might have been the end result but it took a while to get there. It started by stigmatising "the other" for all of society's woes - "they're dirty and spread diseases" "they don't think like right-minded people" etc.

The only question is whether we're sleepwalking towards this or running headlong into it with a grin on our faces.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 13 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

When do you think we’ll start gassing the unvaccinated and stealing their art collections and teeth?
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 14 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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When do you think we’ll start gassing the unvaccinated and stealing their art collections and teeth?


If the unvaccinated around my way are representative, most are either middle-class hippie types pretending to be poor who don't believe in combing their kids hair for nits because nits have rights too, or grey trackie-wearing individuals with teeth missing. If I were being harsh, I'd say that society wouldn't miss either group.

But I'm not harsh. I just wouldn't like to be sat on a bus next to either.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 14 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
The holocaust might have been the end result but it took a while to get there. It started by stigmatising "the other" for all of society's woes - "they're dirty and spread diseases" "they don't think like right-minded people" etc.

The only question is whether we're sleepwalking towards this or running headlong into it with a grin on our faces.


Well, that bit's true!
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 14 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
The holocaust might have been the end result but it took a while to get there. It started by stigmatising "the other" for all of society's woes - "they're dirty and spread diseases" "they don't think like right-minded people" etc.

The only question is whether we're sleepwalking towards this or running headlong into it with a grin on our faces.


Neither I hope. The fundamental difference between our situation and that of the Jews and Nazis is that the internet didn't exist in the 1930s, so the Government found it very easy to direct public opinion by way of newspapers, public information films etc.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 14 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Except it's not. The RATE (not just numbers) of infection amongst those of 2 jabs and counting, is twice that of unvaccinated in most age groups.

"Please note that the following table should be read in conjunction with pages 34 to 37 of this report, and the footnotes provided on page 42."

"[see information on population bases and unadjusted rates in footnotes 1 and 2 below this table]"

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1045329/Vaccine_surveillance_report_week_1_2022.pdf

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PostPosted: 12:57 - 14 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's it, Marcus. Dance for us.
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PostPosted: 13:08 - 14 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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We all know Covid is less a health issue and more a control issue. What need is there for all this numeric drivel?
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 14 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

YPVS wrote:
Yes, the government have been trying to find excuses for these figures for months.

You say excuses, other people say explanations. Whatever the data says, you're just going to interpret everything as being excuses.

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The chart was hidden deeper and deeper into the report as the months went by and it became more obvious that the vaccine does nothing to stop the spread, in fact it actually seems to encourage it, going by the most vaccinated countries seeing the largest rises in cases.

It's not even slightly hidden. Pages 34 to 37 cover why there are large numbers of vaccinated people testing positive.

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Now, to confuse the sheep like the Ugly Gnome, who doesn't even understand the difference between numbers and rate, they've even stooped to using a light grey font to make the figures stand out even less. Nowhere else in this 60 + page documents is there another set of figures greyed out like this.

You and nobby carry on having a bitch fight but I can't be bothered with whatever it is you two are doing.

Unadjusted case rates among persons vaccinated have been formatted in grey to further emphasise the caution to be employed when interpreting the data.

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PostPosted: 13:46 - 14 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

YPVS wrote:
Why do you think I do it, Trigger?

Sleeping Haven't you got bored of it yet?

Surely one of you must have something more interesting to do than bitch fighting about nothing? Is there even a point to whatever it is you're arguing about? Laughing
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