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Posted: 22:14 - 22 May 2020 Post subject: Thoughts on this guy's riding style? [Video] |
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https://youtu.be/Ut6Wpm46NSs
Many of you will know the RoyalJordanian YouTube channel. Most of the videos are commutes around London. In the video above, he's gone out into the countryside for a tootle around some B roads, and I have noticed that he is constantly opening and closing the throttle without necessarily changing gears.
Beyond lessons, no-one's really taught me what good riding looks like, so I'm not sure what to think of this. His lines and corner entry etc seems smooth (good) but that constant opening/closing seems really counter-intuitive: like, pick a speed and stick to it unless the road changes.
There may be other reasons for playing with the throttle - enjoying acceleration or engine noise etc - and as I say the corner entry etc seems smooth, but I'd been interested to know what people here make of it. ____________________ ... |
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Posted: 22:26 - 22 May 2020 Post subject: |
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Gah! I'm really not one for such videos. I've got a select few favourite Youtube channels and, nothing against anyone including him, but he isn't one of them. That video's a fairly typical example of why I don't watch such channels. You get a lot of useless information (i.e. what the bike sounds like, and what the dash looks like), but the really useful stuff (such as the riding techniques you're asking about) are impossible to assess. Why? Because you can't see what he sees. I think he rides in the sort of areas I like to ride. These places are beautiful, especially at this time of the year, but they can be deceptive. For instance, it may look like all trees and an empty road, but it isn't. When you're actually riding a bike, you can see if there's an entrance to a farm or a layby by the side of that nice tree-lined B-road, and if there is, you anticipate, position and prepare accordingly for someone pulling out of there. Those B-roads are just as likely to be an expensive suburb (Oxfordshire), tastefully styled and lined with magnificient trees, as an actual forest. Line of sight, what's visible through hedges, around corners, differences in visibility when in the shade vs under direct sunlight, you can't see, from that video. His riding style seems sedate, conservative and in a sort of touristic mode, but it isn't possible to tell much from the camera. There's also the issue that the bike and its capabilities are completely unknown to anyone except someone who's ridden a Vitpilen, so the decisions he makes are all based on the handling and braking power of that bike in particular. |
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Posted: 22:59 - 22 May 2020 Post subject: |
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Looks good. the throttle is an anlogue control.
He's using the power to pick the bike up out of the corners and the engine braking to slow down.
He has so much power and engine braking, he doesn't need to change gear to ride that bike at speed on those roads.
He's also thoroughly enjoying the huge dollops of torque that engine produces by winding it on out of corners, he then has to shut the throttle because there are speed limits.
As a general rule, if it looks smooth, it is also both fast and correct.
If you want to see how to ride a bike on the throttle and use the throttle to slow down, speed up and pick the bike up out of corners, watch someone doing a moto gymkhana. They rarely change gear. Or use the clutch. Kind of an extreme version of what he's doing out on the road there.
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His style is perfect - he rides just like me!
But seriously, that's exactly how I ride that kind of road. ____________________ Suzuki Bandit 1250
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Posted: 17:41 - 26 May 2020 Post subject: |
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Well it isn't about race, for me. I had cause to be in central London a lifetime ago (around Lincoln's Inn). That place is a good example of what's changed. By the mid-2000s, people were still mostly the same types as there were (tourists, professionals and students), although there were more people in total and they walk slower than they did. It's not a hotbed of stabby types or crime, relative to the outer boroughs of London. In the past, these areas had: lots of unspoken rules about who went where, lots of wine bars, vodka bars, even casinos, oddball curiosity shops (all of the preceding associated with the aspirational, not the super-rich), and interesting architecture. Almost all of that's gone. Now: mostly pizza delivery places, pound shops, cheap food and clothes shops, new apartments, etc. Just seems a less purposeful place that's mostly lost its identity and culture. Most of central London has undergone the same sort of changes. If I had to choose one thing that I didn't like the most, it would be the loss of architecture and character.
To bring it back on-topic, I think that guy's video edits of his commute or whatever probably have a lot to do with his perceptions about how he's perceived, as a monied foreigner. I don't know if he was around in the old London, but perceptions are all relative (i.e. if you remember a place being better in some way, you won't be as happy with it now as someone who comes in and sees it with fresh eyes).
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 329 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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