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jackass1019
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 07 Jun 2020    Post subject: Oxford Heated Grips Install Reply with quote

So I am going to try and self install the oxford heated grips to my moped and I have no idea where to start. I have a speedfight 3. Has anyone got any experience fitting these? or any video tutorials?

Thanks for the help!
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 07 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oxfords own video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63FFphOGfjk

Easy to do, and doesn't take all that long; but taking some care and time to install them will prevent issues down the line (using good glue, cable management etc).

The left (clutch) side is the easiest as its just a case of cutting the old one off, or using a hair dryer to warm it up (melting the glue currently underneath it) to remove it if wanting to keep for whatever reason.

Remove all the old glue (various methods available) and make sure handlebar is as smooth as you can get it. I use gorilla glue (not the glue provided as it eventually melts); place on inside of grip and on bar and wiggle on and then clamp in place with cable ties.

The throttle side is a little trickier as it requires removing the throttle cable, and then the throttle grip from the throttle tube. Same again: glue the grip to the throttle tube (not tube to the bar). Set required throttle free play and clamp with cable ties.

Depending on what glue you use leave clamped in place for a few hours and then remove and ride.

As for the wiring its just a plug and play type of connectors, need to locate and attach the connectors to the battery. Remove ground (negative) then positive (+, red) afterwards; install positive first then negative last.

As I say use some cable ties to manage the excess wiring, or cable tie in place.

If not confident with above a bike shop shouldn't take more than half of an hour to install in labour costs, but giving it a go won't hurt. Take notice of throttle grip free play (read up in manual before doing anything) and battery installation and removal and you should be fine. Good chance to lube throttle cable while you're at it as well.
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never removed the throttle cable and tube to fit heated grips. It's quite easy to do with it in situ.
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most grips aren't glued on. Easiest way to remove the old ones intact is to lift up one end enough to get the end of a compressed air blow gun under it, stick the nozzle in and blow to pop it off.

Next easiest way is to gently work a thin screwdriver in under it, slide the straw of a WD40 tin in next to it, give it a good squirt, remove the screwdriver and straw and start rotating the grip forwards until it's loose enough to slide off.

Always de-grease the bar surface ind inside the grip before fitting the new grip, regardless of how you decide to hold it on. I usually use spray brake cleaner.

Personally, I've never glued a grip on, and I've fitted many, both heated and standard. I use hairspray. Never fitted a "solid" grip though, like to ones you get on cruisers, they've always had some degree of elasticity.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you already purchase the grips? I have installed the "Hot-Grips" brand on a Honda PC800. Was disappointed in their performance. Seems they heated the handlebar way better than they heated my hands. The cheap flat plastic hand grip elements work way better, in my experience. I installed two sets, both on VFR's. They work great, even to the point that the "High" setting would overheat your hands unless ambient was near freezing. In my opinion, this is one case where cheaper and simpler works better than the expensive, molded element grips.
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a fucking bugly switch. I'd be embarrassed to put that on my bike.

The oxford ones work fine. The only fault I've found is that the grips tend to disintegrate after a few years due to the constant heat cycling.
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
That's a fucking bugly switch.

No argument there! I swapped that out both times with a double throw toggle for a clean, unobtrusive look.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Re: Oxford Heated Grips Install Reply with quote

jackass1019 wrote:
So I am going to try and self install the oxford heated grips to my moped

In addition to what others have said...
IIRC the kit comes with a tube of superglue which you're supposed to use to make sure the grips (notably the throttle one) can't rotate... if you do use that, make damned sure everything works properly and is in the correct position - try a couple of dummy runs before you get the glue out - because once you've applied the superglue you have about 1.5 seconds to get the grip in position before it locks solidly, and if you aren't careful that can happen too soon (ask me how I know Embarassed )
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adding to all the above, the latest ones (intelligent controller or something) are pretty effective in terms of heat output. Take a few moments to warm through but once going, I think I only once (and briefly) had them on maximum and that was in sub-zero conditions.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Re: Oxford Heated Grips Install Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
IIRC the kit comes with a tube of superglue which you're supposed to use to make sure the grips (notably the throttle one) can't rotate...
Bin the super glue and use Gorilla Glue instead, it takes ages to set so you've got all the time you need to get everything positioned correctly. Be aware though, Gorilla glue expands about four times as it sets so use it sparingly, and as it sets keep an eye out for any oozing out around the throttle housing, remove any that does with the back of a hobby knife blade. Once it's partially set give the throttle a tiny twist now and then just to make sure it isn't sticking.

(I hate fitting these bloody things)
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spray water on gorilla glue to get it to set in less than 8 hours, its activated by water.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never fitted them from scratch but shortly after I got my current bike I found the throttle grip kept moving round (obviously I was pinning it too hard Embarassed). As others have said Gorilla glue works best but use sparingly because it expands like 3 or 4 fold and is very strong anyway. I found it best to key the surface of both the handle bar and the inside of the grip by using sandpaper before applying the glue. Apply glue to one surface and damp the other surface with water as the curing process is activated by water/moisture.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tuberculosis wrote:
Never fitted them from scratch but shortly after I got my current bike I found the throttle grip kept moving round (obviously I was pinning it too hard Embarassed). As others have said Gorilla glue works best but use sparingly because it expands like 3 or 4 fold and is very strong anyway. I found it best to key the surface of both the handle bar and the inside of the grip by using sandpaper before applying the glue. Apply glue to one surface and damp the other surface with water as the curing process is activated by water/moisture.


Those polyurethane adhesives should really be compressed while they cure or they can foam up and bulge the material. Had it happen recently with the sole on a pair of slippers I didn't clamp properly.

I'd probably wrap clingfilm round the grip then a good tight layer of masking tape over the top while the glue goes off.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worked fine for me but I was very sparing with the glue so...

I got a bit on the end of my finger and rubbed it round the inside of the grip thinly, then damped the handle bar end and... insert!

Only needed to cover the first half of the inside of the grip as you can imagine it will smear outwards as you push the grip on all the way. If you apply glue to the whole of the inside of the grip I imagine you risk it bunching up at the end and interfering with the twisting action and clogging it up so it either won't turn in the first place or will turn but won't return on its own.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 08 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I've never removed the throttle cable and tube to fit heated grips. It's quite easy to do with it in situ.


Right you are.

Sorry, old age.

I had to remove mine as it had O.E.M heated grips on I wanted to sell on, and needed to lube throttle cable at same time.

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