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Kris
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 15 Jun 2020    Post subject: Inside CHAZ Reply with quote

Wow, just wow...

So the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone exists.

It's like the movie Joker was a documentary. Laughing

Welcome to CHAZ, the newest country in the world. Clapping

Anyway, enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay5h5dq14mM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KafIdOk8bLs
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 15 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

To quote Bill Burr on this kind of thing:

"This is not going to end well." Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 15 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:40 - 15 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cop free zone, yet that guy in the skeleton suit is already policing the area. So be it. Let's see how they like the new regime after 6 months. Animal Farm anyone?
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 15 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is lots of talk of "invading", but the government can easily defeat them without a shot being fired. All they need to do is accept the protesters demand for an independent zone!

That means put up a 30ft border with Chaz, cut off all imports and exports, cut off all water, power and sewerage and it will be a ghost town within 2 weeks.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 15 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apparently they have been building walls and have an armed security force that patrols. Also some people have been forcibly evicted.
Err, I thought walls were bad and the whole point of getting rid of the Police was to not have armed people telling you what you could and couldn't do.

Nevermind, I'm sure it'll be fine.... (Bill Burr is right).
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PostPosted: 06:25 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seattle is turning into the Detroit of the aircraft industry. Large proportions of the population are (or were) involved with aircraft production, manufacture and service, mostly for Boeing who are the state's largest employer. They were already suffering from the 737-max debacle then coronavirus hit and grounded virtually all the planes now it's all going wrong around there.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

The skeleton guy is such a nerd. Actually all those "guards" are nerds.

Also interesting how they have that undercurrent of hostility toward anyone who looks suspicious. Maybe they should realise that's how the police have to feel every day.

I think America has a problem with violence, fear, hostility and the need to "protect" oneself from baddies, and that problem clearly happens in all sections of society.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Seattle is turning into the Detroit of the aircraft industry. Large proportions of the population are (or were) involved with aircraft production, manufacture and service, mostly for Boeing who are the state's largest employer. They were already suffering from the 737-max debacle then coronavirus hit and grounded virtually all the planes now it's all going wrong around there.


Hello from the other side of the pond Smile! I don't post much at all on this forum but lurk everyday (don't normally login either), I'm more of an active member on my local forum pnwmoto.com (Pacific North West), I live in Seattle and can fill you in on what's really going on (Fox news is bullshit), I will say the message above is accurate, Boeing has laid off a little over 10,000 people and others volunteered to retire or take a severance package. as for the Protests, it's 4 city blocks however, it's only down 1 street not the entire 4 blocks. They're peaceful (now) an it looks more like a Farmers Market, how they're going to clear this up is beyond my pay scale but the city is working with the organizers on their demands of Police reform. For those that don't know Police in the States are basically immune from prosecution, it's a fact, they want them held accountable for crimes and for the good cops to to stand up to the bad ones, that's the short version.

The area they're occupying is known for protests, it's not surprising to locals this happened where it did, I'd be happy to answer any questions I can from what I know first hand and not by watching the news Smile.

There's a saying Seattlites have said for years, "Seattle looks like shit", it even has it's own Facebook page.
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

shinysideup wrote:
Fox news is bullshit


Aren't they all these days? Rolling Eyes Fox, CNN, BBC, Ch4 etc, etc; all agenda driven bollocks. Whatever happened to balanced news reporting? And all the internet stuff is logarithm-driven confirmation bias that just promotes hysteria. What a world! Sad

Nice to hear some first hand stuff.

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You're not agenda-driven are you? Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
shinysideup wrote:
Fox news is bullshit


Aren't they all these days? Rolling Eyes Fox, CNN, BBC, Ch4 etc, etc; all agenda driven bollocks. Whatever happened to balanced news reporting? And all the internet stuff is logarithm-driven confirmation bias that just promotes hysteria. What a world! Sad

Nice to hear some first hand stuff.

Thinking

You're not agenda-driven are you? Laughing


this is true, they all have their own agenda but in my opinion Fox really likes to stoke the racist / anti immigration fire (IMO), they were just caught putting a photo shopped picture about the protest.

Source: https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/fox-news-runs-digitally-altered-images-in-coverage-of-seattles-protests-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone/

no agenda just a green card carrying Scotsman living in Seattle trying to be helpful Smile.
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, all I know about Seattle is it's where Jimi Hendrix came from...can't be all bad then Smile
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

How true is the rumour that the Larpers are shaking down local businesses for "donations to the cause" ?
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
How true is the rumour that the Larpers are shaking down local businesses for "donations to the cause" ?


Not true that I'm aware, there are a lot of volunteers handing out free food / water, there are signs on some pop up tents asking for donations but it's very specific, Water, food masks etc. and they're not charging anyone for anything just relying on donations then handing them out to those that need them, I've not seen one pop up asking for money.

I've been there twice, don't get me wrong there are people there taking advantage of the free food / water, mainly because they're homeless, don't blame them.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

A protest leader in Seattle's so-called "Capital Hill Autonomous Zone" demanded on Friday that white occupiers give their non-white counterparts money — or face retribution.

"I want you to find, by the time you leave this autonomous zone, I want you to give $10 to one African American person from this autonomous zone," the man told a crowd.

"And if you find that's difficult, if you find that it's hard for you to give $10 to people of color, to black people especially, you have to think really critical about in the future are you actually going to give up power and land and capital when you have it," he continued.

"If you have a hard time giving up $10, you're gonna have to think about, 'Are you really down with this struggle? Are you really down with the movement?' Because if that's a challenge for you, I'm not sure you're in the right place," he said.

The protest leader went on to subtly threaten the white occupiers by saying that he would remember them.

"White people, I see you. I see every one of you, and I remember your faces. You find that African American person and you give them $10," he said. "Do it!"

https://www.theblaze.com/news/leader-in-seattles-chaz-demands-white-occupiers-fork-over-money-to-black-counterparts

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PostPosted: 22:50 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are we talking about S.A. or the U.S?
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 16 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTTD wrote:
Are we talking about S.A. or the U.S?


right!?

and this didn't make the local news.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/leader-in-seattles-chaz-demands-white-occupiers-fork-over-money-to-black-counterparts
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 17 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

And who are these wonderful and wise 'leaders'? They must be very special. Surely they will command the respect of the overall majority of citizens Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 17 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read about this. If I was black I would have been very offended.

It's patronizing and indirectly implying white priveledge.

"I enslaved your black ancestors, but here's $10. I feel better about it now."
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 23 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not buying this whole thing about it being peaceful, a guy did just get killed there. They are probably on their best behavior during the day while all the reporters are there so they can see what a socialist paradise looks like, but there is plenty of footage of people being attacked and having their shit stolen.

There's also this video of their leader stealing this guys phone for recording the shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo2ITO5ThH8&t=609s
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 30 Jun 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

And more culling in the police free zone.....

Two teenagers shot in Seattle's Chop autonomous zone

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53224445
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