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18 months or more on 4t 125s, and probably around 10k miles all told
next, a couple of cb500s - for 2 or 3 years and about 50k miles
other bikes in between and after but that's the basics of it
125s are shit - but they're shit for a reason, and although that reason is itself shit, it did work for me, i think
i felt like it was necessary to take steps - i'm not really about plunging headlong into stuff, or at least not when life and limb are at stake
125s often seem like gutless pieces of crap that aren't capable of making sufficient progress to avoid slowing the general rate of traffic flow down - and I definitely remember vehicles trailing behind me in those first few weeks, and probably months tbh
so I restricted myself to country lanes, mostly single track - where I didn't feel pressured to go at a speed that wasn't wholly mine, and as i got more confident, i went on gradually busier roads. i never avoided towns though, and always made a habit of riding in urban shit on every bike i've owned - small and big. ditto back lanes. both contexts help keep you sharp, in different ways, and make you a better rider on other roads, imo
to start with get out early when the roads are quieter ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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I started with a CZ250 twin. It was all I could afford as I was too young to get HP and had no savings. The state of it horrified my parents so much they co-signed for HP and I got a year old Honda CG125. The 125 law came in whilst I was learner, I did the old part one, part two test, only just in time as in those days a provisional only lasted 2 years, after that you were banned from riding for a year. People have forgotten that bit of draconian lawmaking nowadays.
After passing my test I bought a Yamaha XS250 brand new. Shit heap of a bike that did not like starting on cold mornings, the kickstart came in handy to back up the electric start.
I part exed that very quickly and bought a second hand CX500. It felt huge and powerful and I put a touring fairing on it and some Krauser panniers. I got a comfier seat and this was the bike I felt confident enough on to explore the country over the next few years. I still feel a great amount of affection for that bike.
When I got made redundant from my first job I used my redundancy money to ride about for a few months, camping in various places, just exploring. When the money ran out I did a bit of courier work on it. I was very bad at it, but it was tax free, well I never paid any, so it kept me solvent for a while.
I then got a new job and used the CX at work as transport and at that year's Earls Court bike show I saw a red GPz750A3, the air cooled unitrack model with a full fairing. In a Wayne's World guitar shop type moment I swore, 'one day you shall be mine, oh yes!'.
I got a second hand GPz and ran that for a few years, had my first ever bike accidents on it, both at low speeds, one, running into the back of a mate's car and once sliding off half way round a roundabout, still not sure what caused that one. I got it fixed and still loved it so much I bought a brand new one, same colour, most people didn't even notice it was a different bike.
After running the 2nd GPz for a few years I started travelling to Plymouth after work every weekend, this was before speed cameras and I managed to leave work in east London at 4pm on Friday evening and be sitting in a front room drinking tea in Plymouth at 8pm the only motorway I used was a bit of the M3.
I was starting to go a funny shape with the long journeys and the clip on bars so part exed for a second hand FJ1200, which seemed like an armchair in comparison. If I sit one now it feels like a full on race bike!
I'll finish this later, many more bikes to go. ____________________ Blackmail is a nasty word........but not as nasty as phlegm!
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Odd journey for me. I had little scramblers as a kid when we used to live close enough for fields you could use them in (illegally but you know, it was the 80's) but I had very little interest in bikes growing up except when I was maybe ~13 and the urban tiger Fireblade came out - I vaguely recall having a picture of one on my wall at some point but I can't think why.
I did nothing with bikes until I was ~25 and it was only through a job choice that I became involved. Was offered a job the other side of Dartford Crossing and couldn't face the commute in a car. Mate of mine who had an NC30 at the time was corralling me into getting a bike.
Decided to do bike test just so that I had it and then make my mind up afterwards. As it turned out I passed the bike test and then didn't take the job anyway. Then after ~5 months or so of my mate badgering me to get a bike, he GAVE me (yes really) this:
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It was really nice of him and that got me started. I paid him back for his kindness eventually; when the missus' eyes weren't on me.
About a year on I decided I wanted something better so I bought this:
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Which was a fabulous bike. I honestly don't know why I felt the need to change - I think it was just inexperience and wanting to try new things again. I gave, yes GAVE, that bike to a mate of mine to set him off on his biking journey. I'd been gifted my start in the biking world; and so I gifted someone else the same. Alas it didn't end well, on a trip to Wales he was trying too hard to keep up with experienced riders in front and - yup you guessed it - had a big off. Lucky, very lucky to walk away. The bike was totalled and was left about 3 feet shorter than it was, upside down in a ditch on the roadside.
After the CBR I bought this:
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Kept it nearly 5 years I think. No idea why, didn't like it that much. Great engine, but the rest of the bike was bang average at best. Others hold them in high regard but I don't.
So I traded that in and got absolutely mugged off on the trade in value (I'll never do that again - just sell private) and bought this:
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Absolute loon of a thing and I'm gutted to have just had to sell it because it doesn't work for me personally any more (injuries). When I bought it, my wife decided she hated it and refused to come out on the back, so I went off and bought a second bike to go alongside it, so I bought this:
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It's the best worst bike in the world. It's so crap, but you'd have to have a heart of stone not to love it. Have really enjoyed owning it and I don't think I'll ever sell it.
In between all this my wife was getting more and more into coming out on the back and eventually decided to do her CBT which she got through, so I bought her this:
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It didn't work out for her in the end. She decided it wasn't for her. Fair enough. She still comes out on the back but didn't see herself going any further on her own. I used the bike to commute backwards and forwards to a job I had in Romford which was bloody good fun actually, so I'm glad I got my 125 experience even if it was late in the day.
About to go replace my KTM with something ridiculous but haven't quite decided what yet. Probably an R Nine T.
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My first bike was a Honda H100. I then "upgraded" to a Yamaha XS250 after I passed my test. The Yam was not much faster than my H100, broke down more often than a Big Brother contestant and handled like the frame was made out of plastic. I then had a Honda CB500 which was totally reliable, easy to ride and fun for a couple of years until it got a bit boring. My next bike was a Honda DT125 that I owned while living in Israel and which I have many fond memories of days spent riding through the Negev desert. When I returned to the UK I bought a Honda VFR750 which I loved and on which I almost died when some myopic cretin in a people carrier knocked me off on the M1 and I ended up going over the central barrier into the opposite carriage way resulting in a fractured skull, 3 fractured vertebrae, a smashed left hip, fractured pelvis, broken left shoulder and a shattered left wrist. After almost 2 years of recovery I bought a Honda VFR800 that unfortunately I had to sell as the injuries from my accident made it too uncomfortable to ride for more than 30 minutes at a time. In order to keep riding I bought a Suzuki VZ800 Marauder which I didn't really like. Nothing particularly wrong with the bike, it's just that is a cruiser so it handled like a pig and I looked like a member of the Village People when I rode it. Not being into tassels and arseless chaps, I got rid of it when my hip, wrist and shoulder started to become less painful and bought my current bike, my Honda ST1100 which I love and feels very much like a bigger, heavier and comfier VFR800. ____________________ Current bike: ST1100 "Big Red" |
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Posted: 14:14 - 05 Jul 2020 Post subject: Re: Your bikes from beginner level on |
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Milesprower wrote: | just wondering how everyone progressed bike wise from beginner rider status? Assuming you were old enough, did you stay on a 125 for a while or move on to full licence and get a bigger bike asap, and is there value in riding a smaller engined machine for a while, or doesn't it matter? |
My CB100N served its purpose, it got me through my test. It was cheap, smoked, and was slow. My dad had a CB250RS at the time, and when I passed he offered a swap, as he wasn't riding much. I loved that bike, and spent every spare hour out on it. But I eventually wanted to go faster.
A friend had bought a K75S, and we'd talked about a European tour. I'd been looking at getting an XJ600, but an XJ900 came up at a local shop and that joined the 250 in the garage. In comparison, it was a rocket.
I found the move from a 100 to the 250 a worthwhile jump, as it meant the difference between being a rolling roadblock to actually being part of the traffic flow. That reduced the amount of perceived frustration being aimed at me as a rider, and allowed me to relax more. I learned a lot more on the 250.
Jumping to the 900 kinda swapped that frustration, so that now everyone was in my way instead of the other way around. That changed as I matured - I'm happy to just bimble now and let the others get on with their own lives.
Thing is though, is that you have to try stuff for yourself to find out whether you like it or not. My advice would be that if you can afford it (and have room for it), keep a small bike around with whatever bike du jour you have. Every now and again you might need a confidence boost, and wringing the neck off a tiddler can help put things in perspective again. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
Currently : Royal Enfield 350 Meteor
Previously : CB100N > CB250RS > XJ900F > GT550 > GPZ750R/1000RX > AJS M16 > R100RT > Bullet 500 > CB500 > LS650P > Bullet Electra X & YBR125 > Bullet 350 "Superstar" & YBR125 Custom > Royal Enfield Classic 500 Despatch Limited Edition (28 of 200) & CB Two-Fifty Nighthawk > ER5 |
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Milesprower wrote: | Some great stories there, so it seems it's pretty subjective about 'progression' on size of bike... i notice nobody just went in on a 1000cc 😀 |
I did the equivalent, CB100N on L plates to GPz750 turbo, which had nearly identical performance to the GPz1100 of the same time. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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arry wrote: | Romford which was bloody good fun actually |
Does not compute! (I lived in Collier Row for a few years). ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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yen_powell wrote: | I had a friend who ran a bike breakers in Collier Row for a while. He does the sound editing on cartoon and tv programmes now I believe, bit of a change of direction. |
Hyside, formerly Street Machine? Dave Street or Ronnie Hyside (was that his actual name?)? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I know it was Hyside's in late '91/early '92, because they had the wreck of my FZR and I went to see it there when I was up and about again.
Never met Mr. Dunn or knew of him.
Tbh, I didn't know any of them beyond popping in now and again. They got a bit of a reputation as Street Machine, gossip went around. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I was starting to go a funny shape with the long journeys and the clip on bars so part exed for a second hand FJ1200, which seemed like an armchair in comparison. If I sit one now it feels like a full on race bike!
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Part 2
The FJ was an earlyish one and had metal grills in the fairing, buzzed like buggery at anything above 70mph. I ended up using bathroom sealant on the little rivets that held them on and that cured it. The FJ was my introduction to seized front brakes after a harsh winter, I ended up having to put second hand calipers on. Since then I have always done a clean up and copperslip coating on pistons and pins at every pad change or before winter to keep it at bay. I've seen on here people saying that is a big no-no, but I have gone round the clock on quite a few bikes and the brakes have always been fine when I get rid of the bike. I went on holiday to Ireland on the FJ. All the way across from Cork onwards I kept smelling rotten eggs. My riding partner on his GPz550 was a known farter, so I kept accusing him until he started to get the hump. Turned out I had a rogue regulator and the smell was my battery boiling dry. I did the whole holiday with my lights on and topping up the battery every 50 miles or so. Got back to Wales where my breakdown cover was available and went home with it on a trailer. Took about 30 seconds to fit a new regulator, the breakers I had ordered it from had sent it home instead of to my address in Wales because they had used the credit card address, not the one I gave.
After a few years with the FJ I saw a picture in a magazine of an early Africa Twin hanging on a wall like a piece of art. It looked so purposeful and I kept going back to the picture and gazing at it. Another Wayne's World moment came upon me. At a time when everyone wanted race replicas I suddenly wanted an Africa Twin. I found one in a dealer up near Birmingham and rode up there twice, once to get a part ex value and then to do the swap.
It sounds silly now, but I had never even sat on an AT let alone ridden one and I'd just paid up my money and handed the FJ plus the Krauser panniers from the CX years before which had moved from bike to bike since then.
When they wheeled it out I swung a leg over the seat and was immediately afeared of dropping the thing, it was about a mile up in the sky with a small fairing about 12 feet in front of me. I waited for the salesmen to go away so I could have a little practice out of view, but no, they stood there waving me off the fuckers. I closed my eyes, let the clutch lever out and shot out the gate feeling like I was riding a set of step ladders.
I rode home on the A5 carefully following cars, thinking it would be slow and sedate. I overtook a car and found it was pretty nippy, even after stepping off a 1200cc bike just before. It also went round corners beautifully and the high seat height meant you could see over the roof of the cars in front of you. After the CX this was another bike with lots of fond memories.
(part 3 later if I remember) ____________________ Blackmail is a nasty word........but not as nasty as phlegm!
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 295 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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