Is morbid obesity un-patriotic?

[Ribenapigeon]

I know a raving Scots Nationalist, who also happens to be morbidly obese. The question occurred to me once that given the burden that his obesity would likely heave onto the NHS and given post Scottish independence the cost of providing a national health service will be an enormous challenge to the country, is obesity on the part of a nationalist in a country that has universal health care provision unpatriotic?

[Diggs]

In a sense it is. Like describing penile warts as a feminist issue...
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[The Artist]

Fucking hate nationalists.

As Doug Stanhope once said, Nationalism is just an excuse to hate people you've never met.

I don't think you can call being obese unpatriotic though. If they are hardcore and really believe that stuff, then just being born in a certain place earns them the right to free healthcare no matter what.

[hellkat]

Of course its not.

It's just greed.
Or in some cases, a pathetic refusal to give up childish notions, which leads to comfort eating.

Trust me, I'm an expert on [self]criticism for morbid obesity, and the reasons are infinite in their variety

Besides, if it were all about a selfish drain on the NHS, then ... that would make anybody who over indulges the same ... drinkers, smokers, bikers ... well fuck , that's almost all of us here, then.

Grip, get.
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[Ribenapigeon]

This guy is a ScotsNat he firmly believes in an independent Scotland but in the event independence happens the state would face major financial challenges in providing health care. Why he's fat has nothing to do with it. Independence is financially perilous and morbid obesity is a known cause of huge amounts of health care cost, knowing this then surely there's a case for losing weight if you genuinely support your country?

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[hellkat]

Of course they should.
But nobody ever will.
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[hellkat]

Obesity is the new big stick with which to beat the public.

Did a campaign of hideous blackened lungs, stumpy individuals in wheelchairs and deformed babies make that much of a difference in the amount of smokers?
Not really.

And the campaign for drinking... for the social breakdown, the violence, the health damage to liver, heart, everything else... where did that get anybody. Mmmm, rushing to the pubs the minute they opened post-covid. Let alone the amount of extra drinking going on behind doors these last few months. Hell, even I've taken up drinking (after a fashion) over the last few months.

Patriotism is probably best kept for the support of the defence of a country.
Or the tourism embodied by the available scenic views or heritage.

Besides, nationalists really should be shot at dawn, regardless of size.
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[Polarbear]

There's many more unpatriotic people around than a fat man who wants an independent Scotland.

All those bastards that self flagellate about the British Empire can bugger off for a start.
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[Ste]

Old people cost the state a lot of money so those who make the selfless choice to die early of obesity or whatever else are less of a financial burden than those who insist on trying to live for as long as possible.

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[Skudd]

Getting people sacked from their jobs because you're a cunt is un-patriotic.
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[kramdra]

Fatties should undergo forced lipo suction and then be offered a diet of veg, or the exudate (with veg).

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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

I can see your point. Personal responsibility and all that, assuming his physiology isn't unfortunately predisposed to accumulate fat. But no. You pay your taxes and you live your life. Maybe you'll need the State to spend some of those taxes directly on your behalf, maybe not. Otherwise you could use any excuse to justify not assisting the needy. Got cancer? Have you been out in the sun, consumed burnt food or alcohol, used talcum powder? Claim rejected, you treasonous wretch!

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