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Posted: 22:59 - 26 Jul 2020 Post subject: Re: 2003 Yamaha DT 125, reliable? |
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Rjgk2012 wrote: | I turned 17 this year and regrettably purchased a second hand keeway txm (Chinese) which is poorly made and falling apart, I rode it for a week before the piston rings failed and needed replacing.
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I've found a 2003 2 stroke Yamaha DT 125R for £2000 with almost 15000 miles which I'm very interested in purchasing, but can I depend on it not the break down? (At least not often). I can afford the bike and the insurance but I'm digging into my savings and I can't really afford to be replacing parts often, thanks for any advice. |
Did you fix your Keeway? What's so bad about keeping it?
My guess is that you will have to spend money on a DT125 that's as old as you are, especially if it's a black and wet-looking thing.
I would look at eBay sold prices to see what the general idea is. As Paddy. says, you could get a Varadero. For £2k there are lots of options, but if your budget is tight, I would try not to spend that much. Keep your savings as much as possible, add to them if you can, because without any you will be k-nackered. |
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Posted: 11:25 - 27 Jul 2020 Post subject: Re: 2003 Yamaha DT 125, reliable? |
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Riejufixing wrote: | Did you fix your Keeway? What's so bad about keeping it?
My guess is that you will have to spend money on a DT125 that's as old as you are, especially if it's a black and wet-looking thing.
I would look at eBay sold prices to see what the general idea is. As Paddy. says, you could get a Varadero. For £2k there are lots of options, but if your budget is tight, I would try not to spend that much. Keep your savings as much as possible, add to them if you can, because without any you will be k-nackered. |
The keeway has been sitting at the garage for almost a month as I've been waiting for the new piston to arrive. I'm afraid that it will break again and I'll have to wait another month to get it sorted. It's rusting in many places and has a top speed of 55mph meaning I can only comfortably sit at 50, but its not that comfortable because everyone is over taking me. My insurance ran out last week so I'm having to sort that out anyway and I'd rather sell it now while it's still worth something. I've found a local 2004 varadero for £1500 with 40,000 miles, do you think I can trust it? Thanks for the advice, I'm usually very frugal. |
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There is no point asking whether any make/model of bike is good, particularly for 125s. Most of the bikes are fundamentally sound designs, but you don't know what has happened to them between leaving the factory and getting into your hands.
On 125s, they are generally owned by young, new riders with more confidence than skill. That means more crashes, more cack-handed maintenance, and more dodgy modifications.
Assess both the bike and the owner. If the owner of the 40k varadero is a grownup who has owned it for several years and has either service records or a garage full of tools, it should be a good bet. If it has 10 owners on the logbook and the last owner had it a year and can't provide any evidence of maintenance, walk away.
If you can take along someone that knows more than you to look it over, you can find out if its any good and probably negotiate the price down.
Paddy had a Varadero 125 with over 100k on the clocks, so they can last that long if serviced. Run it out of oil and the engine will be dead in a few miles. |
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Posted: 13:25 - 27 Jul 2020 Post subject: Re: 2003 Yamaha DT 125, reliable? |
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Rjgk2012 wrote: |
The keeway has been sitting at the garage for almost a month as I've been waiting for the new piston to arrive. I'm afraid that it will break again and I'll have to wait another month to get it sorted. It's rusting in many places and has a top speed of 55mph meaning I can only comfortably sit at 50, but its not that comfortable because everyone is over taking me. My insurance ran out last week so I'm having to sort that out anyway and I'd rather sell it now while it's still worth something. I've found a local 2004 varadero for £1500 with 40,000 miles, do you think I can trust it? Thanks for the advice, I'm usually very frugal. |
Is that black & grey? Anyway, get the number plate and check the MOT history to see what sort of use it's had. I've no idea whether 40,000 miles is a killer, but there do seem to be some around that mileage. I would do the normal - try and find out what maintenance it's had, what usage it's had, whether it makes any nasty noises - and if buying it change the oil/filter and be absolutely religious about it in future. Also check condition of tyres, chain, general consumable things you don't want to have to change straight away.
How's your mechanicing? Reasonable I juess if you're doing the top end on your Keeway. |
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Robby wrote: | There is no point asking whether any make/model of bike is good, particularly for 125s. Most of the bikes are fundamentally sound designs, but you don't know what has happened to them between leaving the factory and getting into your hands.
On 125s, they are generally owned by young, new riders with more confidence than skill. That means more crashes, more cack-handed maintenance, and more dodgy modifications.
Assess both the bike and the owner. If the owner of the 40k varadero is a grownup who has owned it for several years and has either service records or a garage full of tools, it should be a good bet. If it has 10 owners on the logbook and the last owner had it a year and can't provide any evidence of maintenance, walk away.
If you can take along someone that knows more than you to look it over, you can find out if its any good and probably negotiate the price down.
Paddy had a Varadero 125 with over 100k on the clocks, so they can last that long if serviced. Run it out of oil and the engine will be dead in a few miles. |
Yeah for sure, I'm trying to arrange to view a couple of bikes tomorrow including the varadero and a honda GLR, I would like to think that I'm competent in motorbike maintenance and will be able to tell if it's been looked after or not. The seller has service history available so that should help. |
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Posted: 14:32 - 27 Jul 2020 Post subject: Re: 2003 Yamaha DT 125, reliable? |
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Is that black & grey? Anyway, get the number plate and check the MOT history to see what sort of use it's had. I've no idea whether 40,000 miles is a killer, but there do seem to be some around that mileage. I would do the normal - try and find out what maintenance it's had, what usage it's had, whether it makes any nasty noises - and if buying it change the oil/filter and be absolutely religious about it in future. Also check condition of tyres, chain, general consumable things you don't want to have to change straight away.
How's your mechanicing? Reasonable I juess if you're doing the top end on your Keeway. |
Yes, black and grey, it's only an hour's drive from my house so I'm trying to arrange to view it tomorrow along with a 2016 honda GLR for the same price which could be more hopeful. I'm no expert at mechanics, I only started learning about a year ago when I bought a silly little moped to get around, it was 20 years old and slowly falling apart so I had to learn how to fix just about every part. I also learnt about pretty much every aspect of fuel injection and 4 stroke engines while trying to diagnose my dying keeway. Thanks to the internet I would say I'm now quite competent in mechanics and hopefully competent enough to tell if a bike has been abused or not. I'm still waiting for the seller to reply but perhaps I'll be able to bring a bike home tomorrow afternoon... exciting. |
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Riejufixing wrote: | I have to say, it's looking a little unloved at that fairly high price point. No top-box. Check the thickness of the disks as well as tyres and other consumables. Note the vendor seems to buy bikes to "do up". and sell them on. Check it's not "Cat C", too, or else it would be far too much money.
Perhaps you could invite someone else who's replied to look at the single picture I can see, assuming it's the same bike, and comment?
Do get the number plate details to look up previous MOTs before you go. It might be possible to find out other information, too, "as it's a drive please send more pictures".
Try and not be in a hurry, there are more 125s in the pool. |
Change of plan again, the guy is letting me have the dtr for £1850, he's rebuilt the top end, serviced the bottom end, rebuilt the brakes and seems to have taken really good care of it. I can comfortably afford this and the insurance. It's a bike I've always liked the look of and I'll take good care of it to keep it going strong. I'm not too bothered if I have to rebuild the top end once a year or so, I believe somebody else on this thread suggested every 15000 miles. I'm going on a road trip tomorrow to pick it up. Thanks for all of the help. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 263 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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