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Posted: 19:54 - 27 Jul 2020 Post subject: Bike Investment |
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Hello,
Say you had £3 or 4k to spend on a bike that will hopefully become more valuable as time goes on.
What would you guys choose?
I'm thinking about a Honda VFR400 NC30
I'm going to be storing it in the living room. |
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Posted: 20:42 - 27 Jul 2020 Post subject: Re: Bike Investment |
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struan80 wrote: | Hello,
Say you had £3 or 4k to spend on a bike that will hopefully become more valuable as time goes on.
What would you guys choose?
I'm thinking about a Honda VFR400 NC30
I'm going to be storing it in the living room. |
Probably something like a BMW R100 - cafe racerers are tearing them all to shreds so they will be an endangered species soon |
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Get loads of Chinese bikes for that amount.
That is where the smart money is going. ____________________ Just because my bike was A DIVVY, does not mean i am...... |
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iooi wrote: | Get loads of Chinese bikes for that amount.
That is where the smart money is going. |
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3k could easily get you a nice, part restored DT175... #JustSayin' ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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I can't believe what people are asking for these and the 1100 now, I thought about one as a cheaper alternative to the new Z900RS but they're pretty much deposit money for one of those now! ____________________ Current: 55 FZS 1000S, 02 FZS 1000, 77 CG 125, 04 XR 125 Some Bike Pics...
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This thread is a good reminder to buy/try/enjoy those bikes you're wondering about before they get expensive and you don't have a chance.
When I was in my late teen/early 20s I was tempted by an early 80s UJM, Z650 in particular. I was never quite tempted enough to buy one, and the 33hp restriction was a factor. They were cheap then.
Now, £5k for a decent one.
This is why I bought my XR1200. I remember when they came out, I thought they looked incredible, but I was about 22 and the idea of paying £10k for a bike was unthinkable. Fast forward to my early 30s, they were £6k, and it looked like one of those things where prices would either skyrocket or drop. So I bought one.
It was good, but not as good as I hoped. I could have made it into what I wanted it to be, but really what I wanted it to be was a Buell. Sold it on after 18 months for £5.5k.
Not sure what prices are doing now. People are still asking £6-8k, but I don't think they're selling for that much. Doesn't help that Indian brought out their own flat tracker range starting at around £10k new. |
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BTW, has the market dropped out for Fizzies yet? Ought to have done by now.. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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You're not the only one who wishes they'd kept a few. I'd be sitting on a good few 10s of thousands by now. Denco tuned Kwak H2C and stock H2B? First gen GSXR750? RG500? First gen YPVS 350? Kwak 750 Turbo? But you've gotta ride 'em and move them on, unless you're Jay Leno.
Think I'd buy the lowest mileage, most immaculate bog stock Street Triple R, early model, and tuck that away for 40 years. If I thought I had 40 years still ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | unless you're Jay Leno.
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And there's the crux. I just don't see bikes as an investment when you're talking about keeping 1 or 2 stashed away. The effect everyone's looking for is the LC350 effect, or, even better, the RG500 effect. To me, it looks like playing the lottery - something I've never done. If you work out initial purchase price (new) and storage costs over, say, 35 years, it looks good. In fact, it is good. But does it look that good in comparison with, say, normal stocks and shares investments over the same period of time? The LCs are going for about £12K, and the RG500s for about £40K. If you'd had one or two of these stashed away, you'd be quite happy by now.
Large collections are less speculative than small ones. The advantages of having a Jay Leno-like collection:
1) You don't have to know whether, say, a Honda Benly will be worth serious money in 35 years. All you have to do is get one or two of them in storage. Along with 1 or 2 Chinese 125s, as someone suggested, and 1 or 2 Fireblades, etc. The speculation part is reduced, and there is less exposure to risk.
2) Your storage and insurance costs do not increase incrementally by much every time you add a bike.
What this means is, Jay Leno might have a couple of 1200 Bandits and a couple of RG500s. 35 years after buying them new, he sells the Bandits at a small loss (after all, they will always have residual value as practically unused, mint-condition bikes), and the RG500s for a large profit. After getting rid of both the Bandits and the RGs, he is still in the money. Just not as much in the money as if he'd bought only RG500s.
I'm not Jay Leno but if I were, I'd probably not change a thing. A large collection of multiple vehicles is a much sounder investment strategy than just 1 or 2, or even 4 or 5. |
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iooi wrote: | Get loads of Chinese bikes for that amount.
That is where the smart money is going. |
I think you have a good point there, you could charge people to watch how fast something can rust in front of your eyes..... ____________________ Honda Novio, Puch Grand Prix, Suzuki AP50, CZ 125, Wassell 125, Montesa 348,Honda 125TDC, Suzuki 100ER, Suzuki GSF650 Bandit, Aprillia Pegaso, Honda PCX125, Honda Forza300, BMW G310 GS, Suzuki SFV650, Honda CB500X
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 241 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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