2014 FZ1 Service Help Please

[TravisBickle]

Hi guys hopefully a quick one to answer here, I'm just in the process of ordering the parts in for a service but cannot find anywhere on the list a fuel filter for my bike. Is it possible it doesn't have one? If so, would it benefit from adding an aftermarket inline one?

Any input greatly appreciated.
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2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[c_dug]

It's part of the fuel pump assembly and is inside the tank itself, it's very similar to a car one if you've ever seen one of those?

Personally I'd not bother unless you have some reason to think it needs doing, if it ain't broke...


Edit: here: https://www.998cc.org/threads/gen-2-how-to-clean-fuel-filter.22359/
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[TravisBickle]

Ok thanks for the advice! Just a bit concerned because it's on 40,000 miles now and I'm taking it to France next month. But you think leave it alone?
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2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[NJD]

Agree with c_dug. Fuel pump is hardly a two pence part. No way I'd be digging around one, or trying to learn how to take it apart, unless I had error codes flashing or suspected issues relating to the fuel pump that the manual diagnostic section had pointed me towards.

https://www.manualslib.com/manual/763431/Yamaha-Fz1-N.html?page=83#manual

40k miles means nothing, how its been looked after does.

Hard to say what to bother with without the bike to hand. You could pack your entire house on the bike and still need something else. Recovery service, charger, phone, credit etc are best tool you can have to keep you going while out there (covid depending).

Oil, plugs, air filter and then a general lubrication of cables/pivot points and chain would be first call. I don't do the whole "build it up to one massive spend out" kind of service since I'm always fiddling.
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[TravisBickle]

Much appreciated. Yep got all those parts on order or done already. Ordered chain and sprockets too. Probably replacing premature but the Supersprox Stealth sprocket has been on my wish list for a while and matches the other gold accessories on my bike anyway so seemed a good time to take the plunge on it along with a gold ZVM-X chain and a renthal front sprocket (I understand they're better than JT?). Done a K&N air filter not long ago so really just gonna be the K&N oil filter and NGK iridium spark plugs for now and get the guy to give it a good looking over / health check.
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2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[Fizzer Thou]

I use Renthal sprockets on most of my bikes as well as DID gold X ring chains.I always buy my stuff from B&C Express as the possibility of fake DID chains that have flooded eblag of late.Buy cheap buy twice or something similar.A Supersprox rear is a good investment.I have one on the rear of my KTM enduro and it is lasting far better than the similar Renthal sprocket I had previously.

As for K&N oil filters,I have read about the type that has a nut welded to the front of the can causing problems.I have been using HiFlo spin on filters from Wemoto for my R1 for years now.

As for the fuel filter,I recollect a friend having problems with his brand new Kawasaki GPZ1100B1 back when they were first introduced.He took it back to Boyers of Bromley for its first service after 600 miles and it was stuttering on acceleration.Despite the assurances from the service manager that once the plugs and plug caps were changed that all was okay,said friend aimed for Paris with his girlfriend.He encountered countless times the stuttering and by the time he got back to south London he was pretty fed up.He left the bike with Boyers and told them in no uncertain terms "GET IT FIXED!!!" Using a new bike from the showroom as a donor bike they tried the injection bank,the ECU,the injection brain and various sensors.Now take on board that the bike was near enough brand new and no one suspected that the culprit,the fuel filter,would be the cause.But this one part should have been replaced at the first service and it was not.Now contemplate a fuel filter on a bike with 40,000+ miles on the clock.
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[c_dug]

[TravisBickle]

You've got me worried now as the chain itself and arguably the most important component was the only item I did buy from eBay. It was £117 from a seller called max-honda-spares

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223775958994

Any way I can tell if its genuine or not when it arrives???
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2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[Copycat73]

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[Robby]

There was an issue with some K&N filters a few years ago where the welds for the nut on the end were porous or weakened the metal of the filter. This eventually let go, leading to oil shooting out of the filter under pressure.
Doubtless fixed now, but many people will never go near them again. Why would you, when there are plenty of manufacturers who make oil filters that don't have a reputation for sudden catastrophic failure.

On the fuel filter subject, I wonder if Fizzer Thou's mate had a filter failing rather than clogging. I have heard rumours of Guzzi in-tank filters failing because they fitted the wrong thing in the first place. It's a pressed-together metal/plastic filter that was intended for diesel, not petrol, certainly not ethanol. The two bits separate.
Whilst I would recommend changing a fuel filter that has done 40k, car ones seem to go on a lot longer than that without any maintenance and it's one of those jobs which is going to be a pain in the arse.

[Fizzer Thou]

[Fizzer Thou]

[TravisBickle]

Wow I change the fuel filters on my cars every service, so around 10k to 15k depending on which vehicle it is. Thats why I was so concerned about the bike. Seems to be mixed opinions as to whether to do it or not.

Valve clearances... spoke to my motorbike mechanic and he said not to bother. He said these days generally with newer bikes they ever need adjusting it will be fairly early on into the bike's life and then probably never need doing again but in any case you would hear them clattering and it would be obvious when they need doing. Does that dound right?

Also, any ideas how I can check the chain fir authenticity when it arrives?
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2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[sickpup]

[jeffyjeff]

[Copycat73]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[TravisBickle]

[TravisBickle]

Ordered a couple of tyres as the rear was worn and the front had a temporary repair... just been contacted by the supplier (ebay) that they're new old stock, 2 years old.

Is this anything to be alarmed about or perfectly normal?
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2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

[iooi]

[A100man]

[Copycat73]

[TravisBickle]

Any thoughts on the tyres? This isn't a potential problem being new old stock allegedly a couple of years old is it?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/233387040067
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2007 Yamaha FZ1 S Fazer
2021 Honda CMX500 Rebel S
2016 Triumph Tiger 1050 Sport

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