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Posted: 07:51 - 29 Jul 2020 Post subject: Street Triple, buying advice |
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So, i've decided its time to upgrade my trusty Hornet 600 after 3 years, and after looking at all sorts of different bikes, i keep coming back to the Street Triple, but i have heard a few horror stories about them (mainly being easy to nick, and wiring/connector issues)
I have heard the later models have better security, but what year did this "upgrade" actually come in, as i still can't quite work out the Street Triple timeline in terms of versions (twin round lights, twin angled lights, high exit exhaust, low exit exhaust etc)
So i'm really after a bit of advice on what to look out for, and which model is best to aim for, budget is around £5-6k
Also, are there any major service intervals i should be aware of ____________________ Current Bike: Honda CG125 ES4 // Honda CB600FS Hornet // Triumph Street Triple R |
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Posted: 08:06 - 29 Jul 2020 Post subject: |
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MarJay wrote: | Do you live in London? Do you park on the street? If no, I wouldn’t worry too much about security. The early round light 675 is one of the nicest to ride because of the gearing. The later dame Edna eyes one is a bit more muted. I think the extra security came in on this model but don’t quote me.
Personally with a decent budget I’d look for an early 765 but they might be out of your price range. If not, I’d buy an early 675 street triple R (as I currently have) and be happy. |
No i don't live in Londinium, but i do live close the Sheffield, who has an ever increasing bike theft crime rate, but saying that, i don't generally leave it outside anywhere, and it's garaged at home, and in a gated (though not secure) carpark at work
I do prefer the Dame Edna look, and my budget should get me a nice late model 675 R, but if i can spend a bit less and still get a decent bike then thats a bonus
What are the service costs like, i seem to remember one of my old work collegues getting rid of his when there was a timing chain adjustment/service due (don't quote me on that) and i rememebr it being a few hundred £ from Truimph ____________________ Current Bike: Honda CG125 ES4 // Honda CB600FS Hornet // Triumph Street Triple R |
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I know, i know, first rule of BCF club, don't post bike adverts you are interested in, but......
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202007291839175?sort=datedesc&postcode=s445th&year-from=2012&keywords=street%20triple&radius=35&make=TRIUMPH&advertising-location=at_bikes&page=1
Is this an early registered MY 2013, or is it a MKI, it certainly looks it, has the correct headlights and exhaust, but i know there are "low boy" exhausts available for the MKI's
It's the right spec im after (R version) right colours, well within budget, but ideally would want to know if this is the version with the imobiliser (is there a way of checking if i got and see it) ____________________ Current Bike: Honda CG125 ES4 // Honda CB600FS Hornet // Triumph Street Triple R |
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rpsmith79 wrote: | I know, i know, first rule of BCF club, don't post bike adverts you are interested in, but......
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202007291839175?sort=datedesc&postcode=s445th&year-from=2012&keywords=street%20triple&radius=35&make=TRIUMPH&advertising-location=at_bikes&page=1
Is this an early registered MY 2013, or is it a MKI, it certainly looks it, has the correct headlights and exhaust, but i know there are "low boy" exhausts available for the MKI's
It's the right spec im after (R version) right colours, well within budget, but ideally would want to know if this is the version with the imobiliser (is there a way of checking if i got and see it) |
It definitely looks like a newer one - it doesn't have the shields on the pillion pegs that go with the underseat exhausts. It has the red subframe (which I don't like) which is an indication of the newer bike.
What I can't see is the ignition barrel area, which is where I assume there is something different to my bike somehow...? ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Most of the points have already been touched on above.
I loved my 09 R, in fact I still rate it as the best bike I owned and I now cannot fathom how I became bored with it
From what I hear the round headlight had the better gearbox ratios for setting off like shit off of a shovel but later models solved certain security issues that plagued the early ones.
The 12,000 mile valve clearance was a nightmare (I did mine myself...never again I'f stump up for dealer in future) the main issue is access, for a naked there is a surprising amount that needs to be removed.
Whilst I was on with the valves I changed the plugs which was made easier by having the valve cover off (think the plug nearest the cam chain can't be taken out without a specialist tool or the cover off).
Oil and coolant changes are just the usual.
Stators and regulator rectifiers are common too (Rewound stator and updated Mosfet rectifier might be worth budgeting for or at the very least a wire a cheapo ebay voltage indicator to the battery) not so sure if the later models suffer but it plagued the round light Street and Speed triples. ____________________ Current: 02 FZS 1000 Some Bike Pics...
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Posted: 22:47 - 29 Jul 2020 Post subject: |
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Polarbear wrote: | I'm pretty sure 2013 was when the immobiliser was fitted. |
There are some '12 plate bikes with Edna lights, but I don't know if they got the immobiliser or not. Anything >=2013 definitely did.
rpsmith79 wrote: | Yeah, i'm wondering if there are any visual clues to know if its got an imobiliser or not, i know Honda's have HISS written near the barrell for their imobilisered (is that even a word) bikes |
If its >=2013 its fine. Mine has a flashing red light, but not sure if thats triggered by the alarm I got.
In terms of horror stories. It's a brilliant bike, very good build. Things last.
Except.
Mk1 had Reg/rec issues (there may have been a recall).
All. Can get a bit ticky on the camchain. CCT spring can lose some of its strength after 20k.
All. The wiring loom coming out the headstock into the barrel. The protective sheaf is too short and 15k of left and right, it moves, exposing the wires to the slice action from the bracket. Inspect the area and check what happens to high beam when moving bars left to right.
15k miles is valve check. Done properly, it requires a £100 Triumph tool and £30 parts to centre the cams on the mildly stretched chain.
The job is £450 to £750 depending on garage.
I've done mine twice (currently 33k miles). The first check, clearance was on the tight side and I shimmed it out to mid/upper. The second check, nothing had moved.
So is it a job that needs doing.....I probably could have left it where it was from factory, probably would be fine for 50k. Guess it all depends on how it was set from factory.
It's a gamble I wouldn't take, its bargaining power if if is not been done.
Get the R. It's worth more on the resale, but more importantly it gives you knobs to twiddle. It's worth it!
Mk1 vs Mk2.
I love the Mk1 looks. But the better headlights, better mpg (mid 50 vs mid 40), taller first gear (it make traffic light GP even easier), immobiliser, tidied up underseat electrics, Reg Rec. Yeah I'd buy a mk2 again.
Just sold my gsxr 1000. I miss the torque and power! But I kept the Mk2 Striple. And if it goes bang. I'll get a 765 R.
It's a fun bike. Bang for buck, can't beat it.
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Post crossed with Moxeys. Valves are 12k intervals. Ooops.
I didn't think it was too bad a job to be honest. It's getting the readings off the exhaust valves I found an issue. Just felt another 10mm space around things would make it easier. |
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@Pigeon yeah the valves probably aren't too bad but certainly not as easy as a Bandit (although I'm a bit of an oddity I don't mind VFR 750 valve checks and most claim them to be difficult)), anyway if I end up with another I think I'd likely do as my mate with Daytona 675 and drop the whole motor for valves
Didn't realise the Mk2 got that much better economy, how far does yours go on a tank of fuel?
I just test rode a 765RS today and I'm honestly a bit it improves on the 675 in every way but I feel its lost something, maybe more power, even better brakes and razor sharp handling takes away the ease of use? Also the ride by wire is very disconnecting, had the same criticism of my mates R1 he loaned me.
Another point to mention to OP, 675 motors have a filter in the fuel pump that triumph fails to mention requires cleaning/replacement, it isn't a service item by their definition but it can lead to running issues, just something to consider when looking at higher mileage/older bikes. ____________________ Current: 02 FZS 1000 Some Bike Pics...
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I bought mine at 14,000 miles so I hope the first valve clearance was done, but I definitely had the second check done by T3 racing in 2014 or so.
I'm thinking it might be due another valve clearance soon... dammit that'll be expensive. As it is I don't think the RR has ever been done, nor the GSXS1000F...
To be honest I'm not super enamoured with the 765. If I wanted a faster bike, I'd buy a faster bike. (I did, the GSX-S1000F - but that's a different story) The great thing about the 675 Street Triple is it's balance. I love the nutty gearing, the sweet handling and the thrashability. It's also good when I go for a ride with the other half on her ER6 as the other bikes I own have a bit too much of a performance differential - the KR1S (when it works) Is too slow, and the GSX is a bit too quick.
I had an issue with mine with a high current wire that goes into a 24 way connector by the headstock. That wire burned out the pin in the connector, so I had to bypass it. The worst part was actually finding the issue as the dash illumination worked, and all the lights worked, but no display and no ignition. It had me stumped for a while, but at least it was a cheap and easy fix. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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Posted: 15:06 - 30 Jul 2020 Post subject: |
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That link you listed...
its a 765 not a 675, so will have an immob.
2013 new headlight jobbies should be immob, means nothing really as they will still steal them. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 270 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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