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Hi guys, I'm 22 and I've never been on the road.. bike or car.
What would I need to do? I'd ideally like to get something around the 500 - 600cc mark.. I've ridden up to a 600 off road.. and have had many bikes before.
I'm really into off roading, supermotard etc.. Which would be the best bikes to look for?
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Have a look on google for your local bike training school, you are over 21 so you can do your DAS and avoid the restriction period.
Bikes wise I would look at something like a DRZ400SM or XT660, less highly strung than some of the other supermoto's out there, but they will still be a laugh without a doubt
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I have just recently got back on a bike after 8 years, being a car, 7.5T and PSV driver, thought i`d use the bike to get to and fro work.
https://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c357/satelliteone/DTR125_1990/800-600.jpg
Not got a full bike licence, and regards to CBT, i dont need to do it either. so NOT every one needs to do CBT as stated in some leaflets and advice from money grabbing insructors, even some coppers have no idea either!
Refer to page 15
ins57p
www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/ins57p.pdf
Compulsory Basic Training (CBT)
Provisional licence for motorcycles
All learner riders must complete a CBT course before riding a moped or motorcycle on the road.
You do not need to complete CBT if:
• you have already got full moped entitlement as a result of passing a moped test on or after 1 December 1990; or
• you have already got a full licence for one class of motorcycle entitlement and want to upgrade to another. (For example, if you are entitled to ride light motorcycles, (category A1), you do not need to repeat CBT to get a provisional category A entitlement).
However, you will need to take a further training course on the larger machine if your full licence limits you to riding modified motorcycles and you want to ride motorcycles that haven’t been modified.
I am thinking to do my test next year, on the DTR and then when i get a pass, uprating the engine to 170cc and a bigger carb.
Thought i`d post the correct advice on CBT, buts if its is your first time on a public road on a bike, then get some training. ____________________ Honda XLR125R - Project
TZR125RR Belgarda 4DL - Sold
Chinki Project done n Dusted/sold** DTR125 2003 - Finished/sold |
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Interestingly enough, here in Pakistan we dont have to get a separate bike license. If you get a driving license it permits you to ride bikes aswell
Because 80% people (minus females) who drive can ride as well here. |
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Thank you. Should prove useful. ____________________ Rear bike rack |
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People saying that it is most likely to drop a bike after a few months after the test is kind of scary down: . I cherish my bike (as im sure we all do) so I wont be looking forward to that day. |
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satelliteone wrote: | I have just recently got back on a bike after 8 years, being a car, 7.5T and PSV driver, thought i`d use the bike to get to and fro work.
https://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c357/satelliteone/DTR125_1990/800-600.jpg
Not got a full bike licence, and regards to CBT, i dont need to do it either. so NOT every one needs to do CBT as stated in some leaflets and advice from money grabbing insructors, even some coppers have no idea either!
Refer to page 15
ins57p
www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/ins57p.pdf
Compulsory Basic Training (CBT)
Provisional licence for motorcycles
All learner riders must complete a CBT course before riding a moped or motorcycle on the road.
You do not need to complete CBT if:
• you have already got full moped entitlement as a result of passing a moped test on or after 1 December 1990; or
• you have already got a full licence for one class of motorcycle entitlement and want to upgrade to another. (For example, if you are entitled to ride light motorcycles, (category A1), you do not need to repeat CBT to get a provisional category A entitlement).
However, you will need to take a further training course on the larger machine if your full licence limits you to riding modified motorcycles and you want to ride motorcycles that haven’t been modified.
I am thinking to do my test next year, on the DTR and then when i get a pass, uprating the engine to 170cc and a bigger carb.
Thought i`d post the correct advice on CBT, buts if its is your first time on a public road on a bike, then get some training. |
That DTR had better be only 50cc or you are riding illegally (and given it says DTR125 in your picture album I'm betting it doesnt qualify as a moped)
Direct Gov Linky thing wrote: | If you obtained your car licence before 1 February 2001 you do not need to complete a CBT to ride a moped.
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Posted: 18:39 - 01 Jul 2010 Post subject: Re: A Duffer's Guide to Getting A Licence + Newbie Biker Lin |
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Bendy wrote: | FIRST BIKE
We've said it before and we'll say it again... it's really best not to spend too much money on your first bike. There's a fair chance you're going to drop it and there's also an element of not knowing what you want (how can you, you've never ridden anything before?).
You can pick up a boring and unattractive 125 with tax and mot for about £500 if you're smart and look in the ads. Use it for a few months, look after it and you can probably sell it without making a loss. It really is the smart thing to do - you're in this for the long term so don't blow all your cash at the first stage. Money saved on the learner bike can be put towards passing your test and think how much cooler you'll look without L plates. |
This is a bit oif advice I dont agree with, to the point I actually critasise it!
FAR too many poeple think that JUST becouse they are starting out, aren't going to keep the bike, and will probably fall off it, or do damage, its not worth spending much money on.
a lot of them fall off and hurt themselves BECOUSE they are riding a crappy cheap bike, dont 'present' well at the test centre, and take longer to get OFF that 'cheap' not to be kept bike, and have a harder time than they need in consequence.
Rediculousely, the WORST place for a newbie to start is with a learner bike. They are small under-powered and not very forgiving to ride, and built down to a price and a quality.
Add a succession of new riders following the buy cheap dont spend money advice, they get thrashed crashed and trashed by ignorant riders who dont know how to ride them very well, doint know how to look after them very well and wont pay much if any money to fix or fettle them to keep them in the best condition they can.
When you are starting out YOU as a rider are going to be wobbly enough, last thing you need is a bike beneath you doing wobbling of its own!
Riding such a bike wont flatter your riding, wont inspire confidence and wont teach you very well whetyher what you are doing is good or not.
Was that little 'moment' becouse the tyres are old and hard and a bit squared off, or was it becouse you took the corner wrong, leaning the wrong way, too fast or whatever......
If you WANT a good start, you want as GOOD a first bike as you can afford, one that works like it should, inspires confidence and doesn't leave you wondering whether that crash you just had was becouse the brakes were clapped out, or you were riding like a prat!
And IF you intend taking your test on the bike, its like going for a job interview. Turn up on an old tatter of a bike, it says you are NOT very contientiouse, and probably rather more than a little devil may care, examniner will be assessing YOU and how you are likely to ride BEFORE you get near starting the engine.
Tidy bike, the right gear, a polite attitude, and clear enunciation of answeres to questions, and give him that 'warm' feeling as well as making his job easier and you stand a MUCH better chance of passing.
If you DONT have or want to spend a fortune on your first bike, dont, but pick old and boring, but 'good' over newer & exiting.
Eg, with few hundsred quid in your pocet, dont go looking for NSR125's or DT125's, or a the like, go looking for tidier CG or something a little more humble.
Not only do you stand a better chance of getting a less abused and more 'presentable' machine, costs of getting it up to scratch and keeping it there are less too.
Cheap Bikes often prove false ecconomy, when circumstances demand they HAVE to have money chucked at them, worse, if they get crashed and have to be written off..... and HOPEFULLY dont write YOU off in the process.
Think on this, as a 'Learner', you DONT have all the answers, or experience, and its NOT such a bright idea to try and be 'Cleaver'... When you have passed your test, and can go look at a whole range of bikes, THEN you can afford to hunt out a bargain, and stand more chance of finding one!
Starting out, get ahead of the game by not trying to find the short-cuts, just play it straight and make life easier for yourself.... you have more than enough to worry about, without making it hard for yourself, when your 'cheap' bike gives you grief!
Just a counter-point to the suggested wisdom, or the original post.
It doesn't HAVE to be expensive to get into biking, but its how and where you make the eccomomies and prioratise the spend you have. there are 'Cheap' bikes and there are 'Cheap' bikes..... Cheap and Nasty, and Value for Money.... thats one of the lessons a learener needs to learn, and hopefully get VFM. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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One thing, I am not sure if it has been added, but I did my CBT today, passed it, but to any of the kids looking for a twist and go, the two boys today failed, and it didn't surprise me.
So some advice for any 16 year olds looking to do their twist and go CBT.
First off read the highway code, it's for your benefit so you don't look like a lemon sat there, when you are asked what sign is this, and what is it telling you, or informing you off.
Take it seriously, don't sit there on the test pad holding the front brake reving your scooter, it is not your bike, and you are causing a distraction to the instructors and to the other riders, it is hard enough to hear anyway with a helmet on, don't add a two stroke into the mix aswell, no need to be reving it
Learn basic road discipline you have been in a car before, watch how a roundabout is taken, ask your parents or the driver you are out with while in a car to understand the discipline of the road, and roundabouts what lane etc.
Protective equipment, I know it has been covered, and so many arguements etc about what to wear or not to wear, it's up to you what you want to wear, but take it a bit more seriously than a T-shirt and a crappy motorcross lid which is battered to shit, I know it is your choice, but you are setting an impression to the instructor, if you can't take a helmet seriously, what are you going to take seriously, I may have looked stupid in a full race suit with a back protector and carbon fibre lid, yes a bit OTT for a 125 CBT, but I wish to wear it and it set a fairly good impression with the instructors.
Don't get pissed off if you don't pass, there is a reason, take it on the chin, use the extra training it will only help you. |
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Hey, just been looking up things on google and was brought here.
I'm 24, 25 on the 21st of this month, have put off driving a car for years due to everyone around me constantly moaning of the price of many things, more obvious being insurance and petrol costs.
I've done well, got by, constantly worked in consutruction/demolition and new build.
The site I'm on is coming to an end and will be moving soon, I can get to places on train like Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, but even further if I had transport... I'm looking to do my car driving test after my 25th as I have the money, but doubt I'll still look to get a car even if I pass.. I was talking to a guy at work the other day who said his lad had got a 125, to razz around on and get to work, go out with his mates and that... he said it was fair cheaper obviously in many ways, so I've been looking into it and find myself here.
So heres my question: what would I have to do to be able to ride without the L plates on a 125? I'm not sure how far I want to go in terms of bikes, my dad had a serious serious accident after riding for years and years due to a careless car driver, cracked skull broken back and both legs.. so I've not thought that far ahead, but for now would like a 125, and preferabley not always have the L plates, so after the required amount of time, what would I have to do to be able to ride without the L plates on a 125? as all I really need is a means of getting to work and a way of independent transport. If what I've read is right it would have to be the " A1 " test? which OP said was pointless? (I imagine because most of you want to go onto bigger and better bikes, not always go round on a petty learner 125 lol) |
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