MoT Test Fail But No Paperwork Issued

[Fizzer Thou]

How many times have you had your bike MoT'd and a PASS certificate was issued?

And how many times have you had a bike FAIL and a failure certificate issued?

Ever since my very first bike MoT back in 1975 when I took my Honda CB125S to what was then 'Boyers of Bromley',that bike failed for the absence of a split pin for the rear brake torque arm.At that time,the old boy in a white coat issued me with the relevant fail document.I found an nail in the gutter,placed it through the hole in the bolt and represented it.The bike then had to be MoT'd again as back in those days there was not the same retest procedures as there are now.

Since then I have not had a bike of mine fail...ever.

Just the other day I wanted to tax (VED) one of my bikes for the first of August so I looked up the registration on the gov.uk website and was mortified that several of my bikes had been failed for minor reasons like drive chain 'excessively loose'.The fact that I have never had a bike fail for that reason made me look at the MoT history of several of my other bikes,only to find that the same had been done on them and then passed on the same day with the same mileage.

https://www.check-mot.service.gov.uk/

The only reason I can think of is that the MoT garage can be seen to fail a certain percentage of vehicles tested.
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[redeem ouzzer]

Yep, exactly that.

I've had bikes fail on headlight alignment but never been told, only found out when checking the MOT history later.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Yep, had one failed on tyree tread when I'd actually asked them to fit them and mot.

It simply to raise their fail rate.
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[arry]

I always take all of my vehicles to the same MOT tester and have done for years. I've only had that once - failed an old Golf GTi of mine on something spurious and then put it through ten mins later as a pass. I spoke to him about it and he just said 'got to fail some haven't I' - to which I responded I don't really mind as long as it's not on my nicer cars / bikes. The runarounds, not bothered - they go to scrap generally - but the nice bikes / cars get sold on, and prospective buyers love to play Sherlock with MOT history to 'get a feel for how the car's been looked after'.

[Shaft]

[UncleFester]

And yet i've got two MOT test mates who say that if you have 100% pass rate you are under scrutiny because a 100% rate is not possible.

So on the basis neither of those people will submit anything for MOT unless they know it will pass, they have no choice but to deliberately fail and then pass the odd one here and there to keep officialdom at bay.
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[xX-Alex-Xx]

"Contrary to popular belief, there is no failure target and anyone who tells you different is talking out of their hat - in fact, we are actively encouraged to pass anything we can, the phrase "if in doubt, advise and pass" comes up a lot."

Same way traffic cops don't have a quota to meet, but it sure looks better writing up 100 tickets a month than 15.
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DILLIGAF

[Shaft]

[UncleFester]

[doggone]

The local chap here says the same and I've known him since school he has no reason to make it up.
If they have below average fail numbers they are more likely to have an inspection to find out why.

[Shaft]

[Fizzer Thou]

There are some interesting responses to my original post.

Each of the 'FAIL' comments on the MoT history of my R1 and my Exup-R caused me to choke as I have never had a FAIL situation on either bike.Neither bike had a spanner or a screwdriver used on them to sort out the relevant suggested failures.I am one for going over my bikes meticulously before presentation so imagine my consternation when reading what I did.

I did have just the one advisory that I was made aware of the other year on my R1 and that was very easily sorted once home.But in my mind,for a bike like either the R1 or the Exup-R to have a failure noted on the system for an 'excessively loose drive chain' is unbelieveable, and especially by those who know me personally.
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[Arfa__]

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[MCN]

[wr6133]

7% PRS is not going to be testers doing things for a target. It sounds about right to account for all the fuckwits you see on the road driving around with obvious easy to fix faults. I suspect many of that 7% are just too arrogant to admit there may have been a fault they didn't see, so happily propagate the myth.

In the commerical world any fails or advisories have an impact on the Operator and in the extreme can put the CPC holder in an awkward situation involving a suit and lots of explaining. You expect 100% pass rate, though "Pre-MOT", are pretty normal, which is basically a dry run the day before, rectifying as you go along.

[arry]

[wr6133]

[ThatDippyTwat]

Similar situation to 'arry, although mine was said in advance. It was a rat, he knows I give no fucks, the same as he does about my exhausts. He'll fail you in a heartbeat if it's even a small safety issue though.
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[FretGrinder]

When it comes to MOT histories on vehicles that I'm looking to buy, things like headlight aim, tyre tread depth and disc or pad thickness are things that don't really bother me as they're things that are easily remedied.

It's the long list of things like oil leaks, corrosion and EML lights that are there for years and are then suddenly gone for the MOT, that has just passed with zero advisories, that concerns me, especially when the car is then put up for sale.

There's no chance that all the problems have been fixed prior to selling the car, it's more likely that it'll cost a fortune to fix, so they get rid of it, using the common "need a bigger car" or "moving abroad" excuses that seem to crop up a lot.

Those that hide the numberplate are a big giveaway to a nasty MOT history, too.
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