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PostPosted: 18:02 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: HONDA CM125 OIL LEAK Reply with quote

Oil leaking from Honda CM125 Engine where the nut attaches to the frame... any ideas? See picture for more info...
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: HONDA CM125 OIL LEAK Reply with quote

Attached a picture of the bike... it's a recent purchase. As can be seen from previous picture the bottom of the engine had been covered in silicone by previous owner.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an horribly obnoxious looking thing. I suggest scrapping it immediately.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aside from the fact that someone has turned a completely serviceable bike into that abortion, 5hats roughly where excess chain oil will collect and drip.
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 17 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
5hats roughly where excess chain oil will collect and drip.

+1 what Nobby said. It could also be a leaking countershaft seal. I would remove the sprocket cover and give the whole area a thorough cleaning with detergent and water (also the inside of the cover). Dry the area with compressed air if you have it. Lube the chain and wipe it down to minimize splatter and replace the sprocket cover. Ride the bike normally for a few hundred miles, then recheck to ascertain the condition of the seal. If it is leaking, you will see oil leaking from behind the front sprocket.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: tit Reply with quote

Riejufixing wrote:
What an horribly obnoxious looking thing. I suggest scrapping it immediately.


Same to you Sir
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Aside from the fact that someone has turned a completely serviceable bike into that abortion, 5hats roughly where excess chain oil will collect and drip.


Thanks for the suggestion... Is there a way to verify if it's chain oil? That would be a result...
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffyjeff wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
5hats roughly where excess chain oil will collect and drip.

+1 what Nobby said. It could also be a leaking countershaft seal. I would remove the sprocket cover and give the whole area a thorough cleaning with detergent and water (also the inside of the cover). Dry the area with compressed air if you have it. Lube the chain and wipe it down to minimize splatter and replace the sprocket cover. Ride the bike normally for a few hundred miles, then recheck to ascertain the condition of the seal. If it is leaking, you will see oil leaking from behind the front sprocket.


Thanks I'll do as you've suggested.... I think the image might be misleading though as the oil is coming from left and right sides not just on the chain side.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oil leaks track all over the place, usually down and back so it's invariably not coming from where you see it dripping. You need to get it all clean and de-greased to find where it's originating. I'd concur that chain fling is the most likely source, or a leaky sump plug.

There will be a crankcase breather hose somewhere that used to be connected to a small plastic filter box that probably got binned along with the airbox. I wonder where that's pointing...
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

noixd wrote:
Thanks I'll do as you've suggested.... I think the image might be misleading though as the oil is coming from left and right sides not just on the chain side.

Until you clean it up, you really cannot be sure where the oil is coming from and how much of that mess might have migrated there from someplace else on the bike. Oil leaks can be deceptively tricky to locate sometimes. In difficult situations, a technician can add a specially formulated dye to the oil that reveals the leak source under black light. (they make it for coolant leaks, too)
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

jeffyjeff wrote:

Oil leaks can be deceptively tricky to locate sometimes. In difficult situations, a technician can add a specially formulated dye to the oil that reveals the leak source under black light. (they make it for coolant leaks, too)


I've seen me throw a light dusting of cement dust over the bottom of a freshly cleaned, de-greased and dry sump before to locate a leak
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I've seen me throw a light dusting of cement dust over the bottom of a freshly cleaned, de-greased and dry sump before to locate a leak

+1! There is a good alternative leak detection method for you... Sometimes it's just damn near impossible to locate the leak source with the naked eye.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: HONDA CM125 OIL LEAK Reply with quote

Just had the mobile mechanic out he suspects a crack inside the crankcase and wants to take the engine away strip it down and ali weld the insides Confused
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't throw good money away after bad so you may as well strip it for usable parts and sell them and burn the rest.

So that's maybe the wheels have any value.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 18 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

How much of a leak? Is it pissing out or just a drip? We have a Vstrom, always oily on the side cylinder mounting bolt but its so minor there is no point looking any further at it.


Also you realise a mudguard is intended to brace the fork lowers? not wise to omit it.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 19 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest it's easier to put on a new casing than fix a broken one.

It's very unlikely to be a split casing though. More likely the seal or just excess chain lube.

Ignore the fuckwit. Any oil leak is bad unless it's an old brit because they were never oil tight.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 19 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
It's very unlikely to be a split casing though. More likely the seal or just excess chain lube.

Ignore the fuckwit. Any oil leak is bad unless it's an old brit because they were never oil tight.

+2. Nobby's on a roll. How could any mechanic determine the case is cracked without first cleaning up that mess and looking for the leak?
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 19 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I wouldn't throw good money away after bad so you may as well strip it for usable parts and sell them and burn the rest.

So that's maybe the wheels have any value.


If you can read I did say at the start of the post no dickhead comments please...
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 20 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

noixd wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I wouldn't throw good money away after bad so you may as well strip it for usable parts and sell them and burn the rest.

So that's maybe the wheels have any value.


If you can read I did say at the start of the post no dickhead comments please...


Fuck you and the bike you rode in on.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 20 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
noixd wrote:
If you can read I did say at the start of the post no dickhead comments please...

Fuck you and the bike you rode in on.

I love the smell of outrage in the morning. I told him he should scrap the thing Smile
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PostPosted: 09:32 - 20 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

noixd wrote:
If you can read I did say at the start of the post no dickhead comments please...

No you didn't. Wink

It's odd for a mechanic to say they suspect a crack inside the crankcase because I'd expect them to be pointing the crack out to you if there was one.

Clean it all up and you should then be able to see if there is an oil leak or if it's just chain lube.

Chain lube is most likely, the breather hose stinkwheel mentions is a possibility or there's the seal on the output shaft, and a crack inside the crankcase is very very unlikely.

Clean it up and you'll find the problem. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:44 - 20 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's easy to determine where the leak is from.
Taste it.
If it tastes like piston rings it's engine oil
If it tastes like spring then it's suspension fork oil.

Basic checks are golden.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 20 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
It's easy to determine where the leak is from.
Taste it.
If it tastes like piston rings it's engine oil
If it tastes like spring then it's suspension fork oil.

Basic checks are golden.


It's all good fun until it turned out the mystery fluid was coming from the battery vent... Sick
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 20 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
It's all good fun until it turned out the mystery fluid was coming from the battery vent... Sick

...or from the neighbor's dog. Confused
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 20 Aug 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Despite the OP being a complete and utter cockwomble who is in the wrong place if he doesn't want abuse for the abortion that he rides,he hasn't mentioned the shitload of crap thats been scraped off.

Engine oil isn't that sticky and just drips. Chain lube is designed to be sticky and fuck loads of crap builds up wherever it collects.

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