Extinction Rebellion go nuclear!

[Riejufixing]

Oh, OK, so I lied.

"A former Extinction Rebellion (XR) spokeswoman left the environmental group to campaign for nuclear power because she says it is the only way to deal with the climate crisis"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54103163

She's right.

[chickenstrip]

Actually, I heard that Priti Patel plans to nuke them.
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[mentalboy]

[Polarbear]

[doggone]

She is flirting I can still tell.

[grr666]

[bhinso]

[Rebel]

https://kenyaenergyfuture.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/flash-binary-power-plant-diagram.jpg

[Polarbear]

Viable in Iceland where there is an abundance of thermal springs and the like.

Not viable in UK where any drilling has the nimbys howling at the moon.
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[Riejufixing]

[Lord Percy]

I've posted this about 5 times in various places on here.

Sustainable Energy, Without the Hot Air

It makes it bloody obvious that the answer lies in:

- A solar panel array the size of Wales
- Hydropower plants on every possible location in Wales and Scotland
- Tidal power where we can fit it
- Wind farms everywhere

or

- Nuclear power.

Well, a combination of those is obviously possible, but nuclear power was by far and away the best choice for fast, abundant and easily managed energy.

[Rebel]

The inevitable regular global catastrophes like Chernobyl and Fukushima are part and parcel of this 'easily managed' strategy.

[Polarbear]

Fukushima was a once in a lifetime accident. Something no one envisioned happening.

Chernobyl was what happens when the proper controls aren't in place.

Even so, that's just 2 major accidents in 70 years of nuclear power generation. Worst case scenarios say between 4000 and 16000 died because of nuclear exposure. Fukushima, no one died because of the meltdown although a lot obviously did because of the tidal wave.

In the oil industry we have killed many more than that over the same time frame and no one cares because nuclear - 'It's a bomb waiting to go off'.

We actually had the same arguments when Liquefied Natural Gas carriers started operating. 'If they blow up they'll flatten a city' panic headlines. Now most of the western worlds power stations are powered by LNG shipped in in 'floating bombs'.

Sometimes giving people too much say is detrimental to sensible progress.

Anyway XR stooges will soon stop moaning when they can't recharge their mobile phones.
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[bhinso]

Plus with Chernobyl , if you watch the excellent Box Set, you see a lot of problems arose from Soviet cover-ups.
As if such a disaster would occur in the glorious Utopian society.

[chickenstrip]

[mentalboy]

[weasley]

I am generally pro-nuclear, having spent a life in science, but...

[Riejufixing]

Just across the English Channel: (source: world-nuglear.org):


Nuclear Power in France (Updated July 2020)

o - France derives about 75% of its electricity from nuclear energy, due to a long-standing policy based on energy security. Government policy is to reduce this to 50% by 2035.
o - France is the world's largest net exporter of electricity due to its very low cost of generation, and gains over €3 billion per year from this.
o - The country has been very active in developing nuclear technology. Reactors and especially fuel products and services have been a significant export.
o - About 17% of France's electricity is from recycled nuclear fuel.

They seem to want to close their oldest 1970s plants, and replace them with other sources. This seems to be a solely political decision, and they admit that they will have to build some new reactors to replace existing capacity.

[Easy-X]

I always look at it as nuclear power = wandering around holding a grenade with the pin taken out. Compact, convenient... and fine till you have a momentary slip-up or lapse of concentration.

Whereas fossil fuel = frog slowly boiling in the pot.
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[Ribenapigeon]

[MCN]

Pressure Groups really need to spend more time studying Brand Placement and especially Marketing Strategies.

They pop up in the most unwelcoming places and their Frontline folk aye look shockingly un-marketable.

Whit's her name Lights looks like a bloke who wants to look like a bird that looks bloke-ish.
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[bhinso]

[Easy-X]

[Ribenapigeon]

Here's a proper leftie. George Monbiot on XR and democracy. I don't like the XR mentality but I'm pretty sure I have more in common with any member of or supporter of XR than I do with the rich oligarchy that have more direct influence over our government than we as ordinary voters do.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/16/extinction-rebellion-britain-democracy-protest-westminster
He makes a good point for the call from XR for citizens assemblies and more involvement of citizens in budgetary matters.

What bothers me about XR is its attempt to use hystrionics to garner support, its no better than the rights scare mongering over immigration for instance. Using a creepy 16 year old with a disturbing resemblance to a Hitler Youth doesn't help either.

[Diggs]

George Monbiot is a proper bell-end, but I do get his point. It can equally be applied to the Right however, who also feel disenfranchised.

What he fails to grasp is that one movement begets the other. XR, justifiable as its cause is, promotes an equal reaction in those that are happy to see the planet slide down the pan because they think it is someone else's fault and therefore not their responsibility. The 'Clarkson' mentality, if you like. Dressing in curtains and describing the death of whales via the medium of mime, whilst appealing to an arty-farty middle-class, isn't going to convince the majority.
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