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bhinso wrote: | I disagree, regardless of whether you can read the road or not, it's dangerous if you are unable to operate a clutch or gears properly. For example you could dump the clutch at a roundabout and go flying out. |
I doubt anyone that passes a C.B.T is ever the complete package on their first ever ride thereafter, regardless of what type of bike they used (auto, or manual).
The C.B.T has a woefully low standard, but bashing our own kind (per se) is not really helpful when car drivers never really face the same scrutiny owing to how many yoof's can obtain family members speedy sports cars and ride it without experience. Plenty of local trees and lampposts can attest to why that's a bad idea. Bikes in comparison, well, I can't remember the last time I encountered a rider that caused me to head shake endlessly.
I'd argue either way that you'd need a combination of both the ability to demonstrate that you can read the road, and control the machine, at the same time. Which is why the C.B.T has multiple elements and a rode ride at the end to combine it all in one.
Learning how to use the clutch smoothly takes time, and the C.B.T would never teach anyone that... just introduce it to them and give them a taster.
Scooter method is recommended here because O.P has lined the pockets of training school to the effect of £260 and still hasn't got what he set out to, but has the ability to further train son when he does have a certificate so why not. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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Yeah basic training eh not technically a test like the name says
I personally treated the whole day like a test.
I would have definitely felt like I failed it if I didn't receive the completion certificate at the end of the days training though, having not passed all the elements to the instructors satisfaction, cup half empty outlook maybe.
I took it out in-case I needed just one element to get the certificate £20 vs another £160ish seemed Ok.
Might be helpful for the OP's son if he can find a similar deal though depends how confident he is on completing it, good luck to him |
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bhinso wrote: | TheGazWaz wrote: | I'm going to bow down to you're knowledge on this one. And the fact that I've just googled it and, yes, you are quite correct. If you pass on an auto you ride a geared. Wow. That seems really crazy to me but there you go. You learn something new everyday. |
It IS really crazy and goes to show what a load of bollocks box ticking the whole thing is. You can quite legally go ride a geared bike out on the road without having the faintest idea how to use a clutch. |
This is how I did it.. I chose scooter just to get the damn thing done and I could practice on my CG in my own time. I drove a car at the time so I knew how to use a clutch, but couldn't be bothered for the CBT.
Anyway, anyone who does a CBT at age 16 tends to only get to have access to 50cc scooters at the cbt centre... Which means when they turn 17 their process is exactly the same as buying a geared 125 and jumping on. ____________________ CBT: 12/06/10, Theory: 22/09/10, Module 1: 09/11/10, Module 2: 19/01/11
Past: 1991 Honda CG125BR-J, 1992 (1980) Honda XL125S, 1996 Kawasaki GPZ500S.
Current: 1973 MZ ES250/2 - 17k. , 1979 Suzuki TS185ER - 9k, 1981 Honda CX500B - 91k, 1987 MZ ETZ250 (295cc) - 38k, 1989 MZ ETZ251 - 49k |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 201 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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