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Flog it to some unsuspecting yout on Facebook marketplace as a project with about as much detail as the buyer requests.
Not helpful, sure, but the wiring on Lexmoto's when new make them look like they were assembled by monkeys at the factory; and that's failing to mention the often poor quality, or at least one electrical failure in its life.
Here's a link to what the engine should look like from standard.
If someone has changed the engine and clearly done a poor job in the process you really do have a Friday special and have to question if its really worth attempting to fix. I mean you may get it running, but weigh up the time and cost versus reward before starting.
Other than that keep in mind not only are you attempting to fix a bike with issues, but attempting to understand what's been changed -- which is important because it could be something that's been swapped over causing an issue.
More helpful suggestions may follow, but I can't help being the boring sensible one.  ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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| NJD wrote: | Flog it to some unsuspecting yout on Facebook marketplace as a project with about as much detail as the buyer requests.
Not helpful, sure, but the wiring on Lexmoto's when new make them look like they were assembled by monkeys at the factory; and that's failing to mention the often poor quality, or at least one electrical failure in its life.
Here's a link to what the engine should look like from standard.
If someone has changed the engine and clearly done a poor job in the process you really do have a Friday special and have to question if its really worth attempting to fix. I mean you may get it running, but weigh up the time and cost versus reward before starting.
Other than that keep in mind not only are you attempting to fix a bike with issues, but attempting to understand what's been changed -- which is important because it could be something that's been swapped over causing an issue.
More helpful suggestions may follow, but I can't help being the boring sensible one.  | welll this is what i was tryig to think of not only what else has been changed but what hasnt. For example if there is a YBR engine in the bike wouldnt it need the YBR cdi? Ass i googled the name of the cdi thats in there and its bringing up cheap chinese ones so maybe it might be worth giving it a go and chaging that? Also there are connecter blocks what look like they should go toeather however they dont. So im only assuming they dont because one is from the instrument cluster (lexmoto) and its tryig to connect to a yamaha block. ____________________ SteBunny |
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I'm curious: this sounds like a project where someone bit off more than they could chew, why take it on? The only reason I could see is a) much cheapness and b) you want to learn a lot about bikes in a very short time
If you want to look at this as a learning experience I'd get hold of the "Chinese Bikes Haynes Manual" which will cover most things. Most of these bikes have Chinese copies of classic Jap engines so a "real" ybr engine won't be dramatically different to what it would have had.
How much time/money/patience have you got? ____________________ Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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The fact you can get it to turn over and catch is about 9/10ths of the battle. After that you need the patience part
Beyond idling you'll need to look at:
Am I getting enough / too much air - look at the intake and the exhaust for blockages or leaks.
Fuel too rich or too lean - are you, for example, using a YBR engine with the original Chinese carb? Then you're looking to compare what jetting a YBR might expect versus what you have. i.e. a lot of guesswork.
I'm assuming you have a nice bright spark but is it the original CDI or the one from the YBR engine?
Then there's the issue of timing. So a random engine has been lobbed in, has someone got the cam chain lined up right...
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| Easy-X wrote: | The fact you can get it to turn over and catch is about 9/10ths of the battle. After that you need the patience part
Beyond idling you'll need to look at:
Am I getting enough / too much air - look at the intake and the exhaust for blockages or leaks.
Fuel too rich or too lean - are you, for example, using a YBR engine with the original Chinese carb? Then you're looking to compare what jetting a YBR might expect versus what you have. i.e. a lot of guesswork.
I'm assuming you have a nice bright spark but is it the original CDI or the one from the YBR engine?
Then there's the issue of timing. So a random engine has been lobbed in, has someone got the cam chain lined up right...
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Exhaust has a previously repaired leak. And i dont know i will check the carb in the morning matey. I belive its the ybr car but not a thousend percent sure. Spark is good mate and i think i mentioned previously i checked the name on the CDI and it came up with cheap chinese CDIs for 110 pitbikes atvs etc. So i know its aftermarked however i highly doubt its for the ybr. And i dont have a clue about timing mate i could do some reseach mate just have a very basic knowlage thats all. Ill try to see if anyone is breaking a ybr so i can request a CDI and a carb. The wiring looks sketchy too. I will post photos in the morning when i get chance. I really appriciate your help. Also do you know if i can search the engine number anywhere to see exactly what model ybr the engine came from; prefrebly to see if it is fuel injected model or carb model and any other details. Kind regards mate and thank you. ____________________ SteBunny |
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AFAIK there isn't a central repository for engine numbers to model beyond what the DVLA have, good luck chatting with them during lockdown Yamaha would know something if it is indeed one of theirs but again, this is not the best time to be hassling ppl for what they would see as trivial information. However, there are fanboi forums out there for all sorts of bikes so I expect there's a list someone's compiled somewhere. A nice cup of tea an 10 hrs lost on Google Search
BTW, inserting "mate" into every sentence is a bit unnecessary, we're all friends here  ____________________ Royal Enfield Continental GT 535, Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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