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PostPosted: 15:59 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Best Type of Bike for Riding 2 Up in Twisty Roads? Reply with quote

Hi all. I'm wondering what the best type of bike would be for riding 2 up on mountain roads? Crusier, ADV, or sport touring?

This might be an overly simplistic way of looking at it, but I think there are 2 "styles" of cornering? The sports bike way where you hang off and scrape knees, and the style associated with supermoto racing which is leaning the bike more aggressively, but the rider staying more upright?

Obviosuly I won't be cornering aggressively with a pillion. It's not a race we just want to both get to where we are going (usually a hike in the mountains) and home safe. But I have been thinking that a sports touring bike (something like Yamaha XJ6) would have a different riding style to an ADV bike (Say, Super Tenere XTZ 750) and that the ADV bike with its more upright riding style might be easier to ride with a pillion?

Maybe a UJM because of the lower centre of gravity?

Am I talking absolute bollocks?
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Re: Best Type of Bike for Riding 2 Up in Twisty Roads? Reply with quote

CorriganJ wrote:
supermoto racing which is leaning the bike more aggressively, but the rider staying more upright?


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Am I talking absolute bollocks?


https://www.southbayriders.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=321512&d=1278013136

He says yes.

2 up riding, you aren't typically aiming for the edge of the tyres on every corner, I'd have a nice grunty bike if I was 2 up, something like a VStrom or maybe even VFRs, but I guess I'd be around the tourer side more than sports side, so I'd get me a VStrom.

All my 2 up riding has been very leisure based though, with one of those bikes being a 125 at 100% for a good few hours Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:54 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

If riding with a pillion is a big/significant part of your bike usage, one really important aspect is pillion comfort. That will vary hugely between bikes, and I have no doubt that the sort of bike on which you'd be wanting to get your knee down on corners is not likely to be one on which a pillion is going to be particularly happy. And if you really want buy-in from your pillion to accompany you on long overseas tours, that should be one of the biggest features in your buying decision, IMHO.
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Re: Best Type of Bike for Riding 2 Up in Twisty Roads? Reply with quote

CorriganJ wrote:
Obviosuly I won't be cornering aggressively with a pillion. It's not a race we just want to both get to where we are going (usually a hike in the mountains) and home safe.

A nice big comfy relaxed tourer.

Glad you've still got her, by the way.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sporty two up, easy FJR1300, fast one or two up, standard suspension is a little bouncy when really pressing (3 figures) on 2 up, but but upgrade shocks and springs and she’s real fun in the twisties, plenty of grunt too. Go from £2k to £15k depending on year, don't be put off by high mileage, as long as it's been looked after it will be fine.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Re: Best Type of Bike for Riding 2 Up in Twisty Roads? Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
CorriganJ wrote:
supermoto racing which is leaning the bike more aggressively, but the rider staying more upright?


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Am I talking absolute bollocks?


https://www.southbayriders.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=321512&d=1278013136

He says yes.



Well that picture is exactly what I mean? The bike is leant way over, but he is (relatively) upright. He is doing the opposite of hanging off in a corner. But, a V Strom I would say is an ADV so you're reinforcing my idea that more upright bikes are better for two up. I mean, I always see people on GS absolutely blasting around with 2 people.
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 29 Dec 2020    Post subject: Reply with quote

Freddyfruitbat wrote:
If riding with a pillion is a big/significant part of your bike usage, one really important aspect is pillion comfort. That will vary hugely between bikes, and I have no doubt that the sort of bike on which you'd be wanting to get your knee down on corners is not likely to be one on which a pillion is going to be particularly happy. And if you really want buy-in from your pillion to accompany you on long overseas tours, that should be one of the biggest features in your buying decision, IMHO.


Well it's our only mode of transport, so she sort of doesn't have a choice, I can buy whatever I want and she still has to get on the back Laughing

But, yes, now that I have my A2 test coming up soon I'm trying to choose a bike that will be suitable for the both of us... Frankly ANY bike I will have fun on. Even limited to 44bhp or whatever it is, I'm going to be having the time of my life. Frankly, I just wish I had the chance to ride more bikes and try more styles... I feel like I'm making this purchase more or less blind, relying on the opinions of internet strangers but... it feels like an important purchase, and not being able to just go and ride a ton of different bikes I'm trying to work out what I can by askig dumb questions...

Very seriously considering a KZ 650. There are a few here for okay money, and they have a very low centre of gravity. Something like an SV650 the pillion is perched up high, above the rider. Old UJMs the pillion is lower and therefore I might be more stable? Or will the old forks and dual shocks on the back mean it handles like shit?
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 21 Mar 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’d like to see you get two up on that Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 06 Apr 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:03 - 01 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

If a big part of your riding is going to include a pillion on mountain roads you are going to need a bike with grunt and comfort.

I own a GS which would do the job easily.
i have a 58ltr box i can put on with a padded backrest, the wife loves it and it stops her falling off the back when i suddenly blast off without warning Razz
On the sports bike i nearly had her boots under my arm pits on a few occasions.

The wife reading your post would say GS, Tiger, Vstrom, Multistrada or Africa twin in no particular order.

Book a test ride and take the Mrs
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 02 May 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

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