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GettinBetter
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Is This To Be Expected? Reply with quote

Looking at bikes...
saw this...

https://m.atcdn.co.uk/a/media/w800h600/4abd81fbe7314a429223cc0b4bc58630.jpg

Is that exhaust discolouration the norm' I thought this type of thing had been designed out by now?

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PostPosted: 17:58 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks to me like something that has been done deliberately. Usually, most exhaust discolouration happens at the hottest part, i.e. the down pipes where they exit the cylinder block. That looks like someone has introduced excess heat at a part of the exhaust that would normally be relatively cool by comparison.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Saddlebags? Backfires?
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Looks to me like something that has been done deliberately. Usually, most exhaust discolouration happens at the hottest part, i.e. the down pipes where they exit the cylinder block. That looks like someone has introduced excess heat at a part of the exhaust that would normally be relatively cool by comparison.


On my Bullet:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50232462657_6f4520ecca_b.jpg

This wasn't long after I'd cleaned it all away; it gets far worse than that.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect it's caused by diarrhea at the first corner the owner reached. The percentage of semen contained in said diarrhea would obviously depend on how hot they look in their arseless chaps.
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Interesting. Saddlebags? Backfires?


Catalytic converter? They get hot.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I suspect it's caused by diarrhea at the first corner the owner reached. The percentage of semen contained in said diarrhea would obviously depend on how hot they look in their arseless chaps.



Oh, really! Of course, it's always much more believable, if poster is speaking from experience?
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Interesting. Saddlebags? Backfires?


Catalytic converter? They get hot.


Looking at other versions of the same model, they don't exhibit the same discolouration.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

GettinBetter wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I suspect it's caused by diarrhea at the first corner the owner reached. The percentage of semen contained in said diarrhea would obviously depend on how hot they look in their arseless chaps.



Oh, really! Of course, it's always much more believable, if poster is speaking from experience?


I have ridden a harldey so I do have first hand experience of just how shit they are on corners.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still think it's a deliberate effect. I think saddlebags wouldn't be so evenly distributed in colour, either along the length of the effect, or around the exhaust, but would change outwards from where saddlebags came into contact.

GettinBetter wrote:
Looking at other versions of the same model, they don't exhibit the same discolouration


Which if the case makes it even more likely to me.
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

GettinBetter wrote:
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Catalytic converter? They get hot.


Looking at other versions of the same model, they don't exhibit the same discolouration.


I'd imagine most of them seldom leave the garage between MOTs and when they do, aren't out for long enough or ridden hard enough to get the cat up to temperature.

A case in point was my Dads old 650 Dragstar. I took it out for a spin once and got my head in my hands to play with when I brought it back with thoroughly blued header pipes. He'd had it for three years and never seen such a thing. Therefore I'd been thrashing it (which I had) which was apparently a wrong thing to do and I was made to autosol them back to silver again. I never rode it again.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you actually thrash an engine like the OP's example, big, lazy v-twin - perhaps a lot of torque but not much in the way of peak power? Pinned at WOT for prolonged periods? I find that unlikely for numerous reasons!
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Can you actually thrash an engine like the OP's example, big, lazy v-twin - perhaps a lot of torque but not much in the way of peak power? Pinned at WOT for prolonged periods? I find that unlikely for numerous reasons!


I would say the lazier and less powerful an engine is, the more I would be inclined to thrash it. I kept the afore-mentioned dragstar pretty much on the redline in 5th to maintain 85mph. It couldn't really pull top gear properly.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
....Therefore I'd been thrashing it (which I had).....


That's exactly what I was thinking, and to be honest, I would too. It's down to... do I want to buy a bike with visible evidence of hard riding. It's all about degrees.

It does have a 'cat', so that may contribute.... maybe one of the garage oiks took it out and thrashed it.

When I was a lad, I got my first job as a petrol pump attendant (yeah I know, not going there) and the jack the lad head pump attendant used to take the cars that were in for repairs out for a ride every now and then after the management had gone home, especially if they had a largish engine. On one occasion he took a 3.5 Capri out after a propshaft repair of some sort. When he came back it was making a rumbling sound and he parked it up where he found it. The guy who came to collect it never even got off the forecourt, The shifty mechanic was also surprised, and had to fix it again. He was shifty enough to know someone had fucked it.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest I'm amazed that it managed to get that hot on a Harvey. I would have thought that it would have fallen off because of the vibration before it got hot enough to discolour.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like someone’s poorly taken a blowtorch to it to heat up the metal.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think someone drilled out the end baffle and removed whatever sound dampening material was there and then put the end baffle back in. It looks exactly like a 90's sports bike open exhaust system that needs some fresh ''wool''.

EDIT: Or it's just a bad design combined with an owner who enjoys revving the engine in neutral. Thinking
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 02 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Laser straight through back in the 80's on an old GS550. The whole system looked like that. My Harris Works downpipes also on a GPz750a.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 03 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
To be honest I'm amazed that it managed to get that hot on a Harvey. I would have thought that it would have fallen off because of the vibration before it got hot enough to discolour.


I wonder if Yamahas don't vibrate as much, because that's what that is.
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PostPosted: 02:41 - 03 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaft wrote:
Nobby the Bastard wrote:
To be honest I'm amazed that it managed to get that hot on a Harvey. I would have thought that it would have fallen off because of the vibration before it got hot enough to discolour.


I wonder if Yamahas don't vibrate as much, because that's what that is.


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PostPosted: 02:48 - 03 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

1300.
Sold.
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PostPosted: 03:32 - 03 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Sold.


OP's friend should count themselves lucky. Joke of a dealership.

I contacted them last year to inquire about an P/X value on a 06 CBF 1000 and IIRC (from memory) they told me they'd pay around the £900 mark and no more (68k miles). It's not just that, but the way in which they responded was rather hilarious (shame I can't find it now). I wouldn't bother with them again.

Just looked at their website and they had a MK1 box-eye (2000) fazer 600 listed for £2195 that sold (presume at that price). On original downpipes (known for rusting) and virtually no extra's.

Invest in them if you're in the market to overpay and get mugged off in the process. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 03 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

welcome to dealers
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PostPosted: 11:03 - 03 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

trevor saxe-coburg-gotha wrote:
welcome to dealers


Was gonna say.

Part ex is always convenience driven not financially beneficial.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 03 Jan 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Part ex is always convenience driven not financially beneficial.


Granted, and when P/X'ing it would be idle minded to not realise that you're always going to receive an offer less than what they'd sell it for: nature of business, and as you say convince of not having tyre kickers turn up at the house etc; but the tone in the response I received was what tickled me particularly.

Plenty of small shops with better customer service than theirs around. Thumbs Up
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