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Throw yourself into exercise. I know a couple of guys who were depressed enough to require therapy, and it helped them immensely. You'll have purpose and you'll be producing endorphines and other products which are the body's 'happy drugs'. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Pete. wrote: | Throw yourself into exercise. I know a couple of guys who were depressed enough to require therapy, and it helped them immensely. You'll have purpose and you'll be producing endorphines and other products which are the body's 'happy drugs'. |
+1 for exercise.
It's been my shield against depression for over 30 years. As above, endorphins and purpose. Also, seeing the positive changes in your physique/fitness is the most satisfying feeling in the world.
You have achieved this by your own sweat and blood and no-one else has to lose in order for you to succeed. ____________________ Previously: GP100U, GP100U, RD200, GT380, GSX400, CX500, VT500, VT500, GS500, R80/RT, ER5, CB500, ER5, CB500, ER5, CB500X
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+3 for exercise. Force yourself if needs be... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
Gone (in order of ownership) - Raleigh Runabout, AP50, KH125, GP125, KH250, CBX550, Z400, CB750FII, 250LC, GS550, ZXR750H1, Guzzi Targa, GSX750F, KH250 x2, Bimota SB6R and counting... |
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Posted: 17:24 - 03 Jan 2021 Post subject: Re: Mental Health |
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johny2bikes wrote: | On a shit load of tablets (ssri, snri Diazepam etc)
just put away 1/2 bottle tesco finest whisky a night to at least get a rest from the pain for an hour in the evening. Rinse and repeat the next day.
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Take the following with many pinches of salt etc
I recognise lifelong anxiety and getting into a hole and judging life to be meaningless and pointless.
Trying everything under the sun to shift it, or work around it. Finding some things work, and then they don't etc
Exercise can be brilliant (fitness, escapism, setting goals, focus, routine, improvement), but there may be negative side effects from the booze + downers, that the endorphins fail to materialise.
Try and see.
But don't be disheartened if it seems to have no impact initially.
I found booze to be my worst enemy (and my best friend).
Because for years I didn't join the dots.
It numbs me out for weeks, feel dead inside, try and get enjoyment from the usual sources and everything seems pointless, there are no endorphins. Effort going in, nothing coming out.
I try giving up drink and after a week the anxiety is through the roof! Make it to week 5ish and things noticeably improve.
Exercise provides a buzz. Doing jobs provides a sense of satisfaction. Problems don't seem so big or important etc
SSRI's did a similar thing to the after effects of booze, completely blunted my emotional response to stimuli. Classic zombie effect. 9 months getting on/off them (to max dose permitted) was not a good time.
Diazepam, my dose was very low but knocked me sideways, but quickly built up tolerance, so binned it off early.
In short, booze + SSRI + Benzos = Numbing stuff to deal with anxiety. But the numbing (for me at least) made anything good also nothing.
I don't want to add to your anxiety, some idiot like me writing a post on the internet who doesn't have any professional experience and every case is different etc
But simply, don't be disheartened if exercise does little for you at the start. There might be other reasons. Try parking the booze for a bit (at least a month). If a heavy drinker, perhaps back off slowly (messing with GABA can cause seizures, which given the benzos etc).
Anxiety will probably go up in the first 5-10 days in particular, but can use that energy to begin some new stuff (just don't judge the outcome too harshly).
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+100 for exercise.
It transformed me from literally not wanting to get out of bed due to immense feelings of existential dread and hating life, to feeling really great in a matter of weeks.
Eventually got so addicted to it that it made me ripped, arrogant, and happy. Literally didn't give a shit and was just excited to be alive every morning. Didn't recognise my former self.
I need to start up again though, fast forward a year and too much sleeping around leading to movie nights & pizza binges made me lazy and I've started putting on weight again. Then this fucking pandemic happened and I've become a massive reclusive slob again.
Probably start again when it's less cold, dark and shitty.
What I did to get from fat to ripped in 3 months:
1. Cardio - 40 mins max intensity 3x per week minimum with walking for an hour or two on days off (try to keep moving as much as possible without being sedentary)
2. Muscle work with strength parameters on non-cardio days, listen to your body if you feel rekt rest but if you have energy just keep at it.
3. Diet, same breakfast was always unseasoned oats with milk & some fruit, lunch and dinner was either veg or salad & choice of meat (or protein substitute if you're a veggie) + quinoa, some days when energy felt low I'd load up carby foods like rice. Basic, boring, no shortcuts or bullshit but it worked. Would also take creatine & supplements and down protein shakes when I didn't have time to eat at work but I don't even think that was necessary).
This might not be 'optimized' or easy or whatever, I'm no nutritionist or sports scientist but this shit worked cause I stuck to it consistently and controlling my life in this way made me feel like I had a grasp on things (probably why I got hooked to it at that time). In a few weeks you'll start feeling better, in 3 months you'll feel like you're god.
EDIT: no excuses, I worked a 9-5 and commuted whilst doing this. Meal prep, get to the gym or go running / get walking as soon as you get home. |
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Been having a fair old wobble myself lately.
The good ship hellkat usually rights itself after a bit, but its lately been quite alarming that its not felt *this* bad before. Considering how good I have been in the past (Mrs Revoltingly Chirpy), this is a bit of a crash that I've not experienced before.
Managed to stumble through lockdown and an unexpected death with no funeral allowed, all that gubbins, and then some drama or other related to romance but which you don't want to hear about, and I coped admirably throughout most of last year, not being strictly in lockdown kept me relatively able to cope. But eventually something gave and I ended up melting down in early November.
Did one of those psychological mini tests with the occupational health nurse a few weeks back. Not much on the depression side as I don't seem to have organic depression, but plagues of anxiety have been crucifying me lately. Creeps up on ya when you least expect it. Think "oh yeah, everything's alright", and go plugging along, then suddenly Hey wait, its all gone a bit foggy, eeek, can't cope, can't cope,
can't cope,
can't cope,
can't cope,
can't cope,
can't cope,
can't cope,
can't cope,
can't cope,
and breathe.
OK maybe I can cope.
If I take one step at a time.
So yeah, everybody's saying exercise, which is right enough in itself, but not in that fitness freak kind of way. As the worlds greatest couch potato, I tend to find that its the getting out on the bike which does the best job of "blasting away the cobwebs" a bit.
So if whatever Tier you are in allows it, then get out on the bike with extreme prejudice. Wifey, kids, job, whatever, don't let it stop you from taking a quick buzz, even if its down to the shops for milk and back.
Fresh air and open spaces.
Stop for a Mars Bar and a can of Red Bull.
Then head home full of energy and positivism for a bit of a bunk up and a bacon sarnie. ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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I didn't think I would mind not commuting in winter. Then I worked from home for 9 months and counting, and realised the commute was keeping me sane. |
Funny that, isn't it.
I'd say the same thing: I hate going in. With a passion, I hate commuting, been doing it 35 years too long, on and off.
But in fact, the discipline of going and being somewhere else, no matter how annoying the workmates, or how gross the other denizens of your bus or train carriage, I find it centres me better than spending all day at home. Even after this evening's about-face, I still plan to be going in twice a week.
For the sake of my own sanity, if nothing else.
Well, that's the plan, at least ... ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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I have had my head up my arse for the last few years according to my Doctor. I took happy-pills for a while then came off them because I thought I was better, then went back on them after exhibiting some rather unusual behaviour. I took to sleeping rough after a skinfull, not because my Mrs wouldn't let me in the house, but for the sensation of being alive. I'm sure many on here understand that feeling...
I started doing part-time postman shifts in November, and I haven't felt as 'sorted' for years. I'm walking about 8 miles a day, four days a week, and its like discovering a new drug!
Get some exercise and a job you enjoy. I wish I'd been clever enough to do it years ago ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Sounds like classic manic depression from the cycles, I have a friend who suffers* from it. I'd ask him but now I only get to see him when he's refilling the bread isle at my local Tesco I'll message him somehow and see if he has any advice
*Maybe that's the wrong word? Cope? Manage? This is one of the problems of mental health, destructive terminology when discussing the subject. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 109 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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