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stinkwheel wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
I'm still waiting for you (or anyone else for that matter) to present a rational argument as to why Biden and the Democrats are a good choice to run a country, apart from "he's a very nice man" *
*which I disagree with anyway. |
Broadly speaking the democrats are pro gun control and pro choice?
Fuck knows America could use fewer unwanted kids and fewer guns. |
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He really doesn't like me pointing out that his sources are, shall we say, untrustworthy. |
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Depends on your perspective. My perspective would be that the woman has the right to decide what happens to her body and if she doesn't want to grow a baby inside it, who the hell am I to try to force her to?. |
My perspective changed quite remarkably on this over the course of the last few years actually. Again, another Trump policy that caused outrage. The 'heartbeat' laws.
I've researched and found left leaning / democrat voting women that are quite literally saying that abortion up until birth is no bother and that babies are parasites on their body. I mean, WTAF.
I had always traditionally been on the 'it ain't a baby til it looks like one' side. But getting through the biology of it, it's a baby a lot earlier than most assume.
I also used to take the same line as you that 'women's choice' was the answer but I'm not so sure on that either. If the baby popped out and in that moment the woman said 'oh wait, actually I've changed my mind' and got it injected with a lethal substance, would you be all cool with that because it's her choice?
It's a tough conversation with no right answer. Jordan Peterson once quoted Leonard Cohen, and I think it's the best and most reasoned argument I've ever seen; 'in a massacre there's no decent place to stand'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5k9EDgY8UM
Frankly, any mentalist that takes the view that it's their body and whatever they'll do what they want, despite the abundance of birth control options, and takes the action that they'll take as lightly as some seem to, is a psychopath, in my opinion.
The fact it's a political weapon, to my mind, is abhorrent. |
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It would be easier to justify legislating if it wasn't for the fact that carrying and giving birth to a baby can cause harm to the mother. Even death.
I'm not a woman but the thought of carrying and giving birth to a child would give me the heebie-jeebies.
Admittedly the chances of dying are low these days. 0.007%. This increases fivefold in the case of caesarian.
You have a 1 in 1,000 chance of suffering postpartum psychosis leading to you being voloutarily or involuntarily sectioned.
Not to mention what it does to their fanny. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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The conspiracy theorists believe things are being pushed towards an acceptance of postnatal abortion as the research scientists will have more... materials to work with
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arry wrote: |
Frankly, any mentalist that takes the view that it's their body and whatever they'll do what they want, despite the abundance of birth control options, and takes the action that they'll take as lightly as some seem to, is a psychopath, in my opinion.
The fact it's a political weapon, to my mind, is abhorrent. |
Your comment read well (not that I necessarily agree with it) until this bit. There are miriad reasons why pregnancy occurs, (stop sniggering at the back) not all of them the woman's fault or responsibility.
Birth control (none of which is 100% effective) may not be used because of violence, coercion, abuse, poverty, religion, deceit by the partner, geography or effect on health.
sometimes babies are conceived that will never have a viable life or a severely impaired or short, painful life due to genetics, substance abuse or injury during pregnancy.
So the argument that there should be no unwanted pregnancies, ever, is naive and if I may say, blokeishly misguided.
There are many reasons why a pregnancy might be terminated, each one deep!y personal and rarely easy.
However, you are right when you say it should not be a political issue. Trouble is there are many vested interest groups, moral warriors and religious nuts who think a woman's body is public property. Bollocks to them I say ____________________ Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're probably right |
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Tracey Suntan-King wrote: |
So the argument that there should be no unwanted pregnancies, ever, is naive and if I may say, blokeishly misguided.
There are many reasons why a pregnancy might be terminated, each one deep!y personal and rarely easy. |
I think you might be reading into that one a bit far.
I'm not suggesting that all women that have abortions are stupid, should have done more to stop getting pregnant in the first place and take the abortion as lightly as going to the hairdressers.
The comment was aimed more specifically at the group I'd already mentioned in the first part of my post.
What I am saying is that there are a hardcore element of the leftie progressives that genuinely hold and will openly voice the express opinion that the baby inside of them is nothing more than a parasite that needs cutting out, and will make that decision so easily without a care in the world as to the life that they've ended.
So, sure, there's a lot of reasons for women to fall pregnant unexpectedly, and there's a lot of reasons why an abortion might be a decision they ultimately rest upon, and a lot of those women will have wrestled with the intense personal emotions to arrive there. These are not the people I was referring to. |
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Islander wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | Biden: rule by executive order. That makes him more of an emperor or king than a president, doesn't it? |
And when Trump did the same (and he did it a lot)? |
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CNN toted up the numbers for various presidents. Trump did a fair few but it was within the same ball park as Obama, Clinton & Bush.
Just remember the mantra of the Left: it's okay if we do it...
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 83 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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