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Polarbear
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 19 Jan 2024    Post subject: Now I know absolutly no politicians can be trusted..... Reply with quote

Nicola is doing a good job of ensuring that fact is true.

UK Covid inquiry: Nicola Sturgeon's Covid WhatsApp messages 'all deleted'


Mind you. I don't blame her. Delete everything because some wanker will blame you for saying something bad 20 years ago.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 19 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr Polar Bear,

With respect, Please teach me how you have managed to get to the age you are now and yet have only just lost faith in politicians? I would like to regain some of the blissful ignorance of youth that in your case seems to have never looked at a calendar.

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PostPosted: 20:18 - 19 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

virus wrote:
Mr Polar Bear,

With respect, Please teach me how you have managed to get to the age you are now and yet have only just lost faith in politicians? I would like to regain some of the blissful ignorance of youth that in your case seems to have never looked at a calendar.

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Sadly I actully thought politicians were there for us at one time. I am an idiot.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 19 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

We all did, Its just most people gave up in their late 20s/ early 30s at a guess, I dont know many people of your generation that have only just given up on them all.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 19 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

virus wrote:
We all did, Its just most people gave up in their late 20s/ early 30s at a guess, I dont know many people of your generation that have only just given up on them all.


He probably did when he was in his 20s but the dementia made him forget.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 19 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cancel Blair’s expensive, failed devolution idea now. When you look at the astonishingly low calibre of candidates stepping into Westminster, and the corrupt or idiotic folk running county councils, why would we expect the ‘too ambitious for council, too useless even for government’ yet dangerously empowered middle men and women to function well?

Ongoing Northern-Irish sectarianism means the fools won’t even meet in their own parliament, and Sinn Fein still won’t attend Westminster. The Welsh parliament’s achievements appear to be an even worse NHS and a namby-pamby (it even sounds like a Welsh word) obsession with 20 mph speed limits. Scotland’s drugs problem leads Europe, their education system has declined significantly, they couldn’t/wouldn't even report a national census, they lost a referendum but want a rerun, the SNP is riddled with electoral, policing and financial corruption, and Holyrood politics has been somehow dominated by trans-sexuals (if you want to wear a dress and still go to the Gents I don’t care) with a paedo- or anti-women mentality (now I care). Meanwhile the devolved leaders are spending taxpayers’ money attending international conferences beyond their remit (like Sadiq Khan, shamefully the Mayor of London), and the UK government can’t object for fear of being anti-something or other which isn’t allowed.

As a chap from a working class background in the twilight of a professional career I wonder how Labour abandoned the working class (or how the working class was replaced by an underclass and a new, barely self-sufficient middle class) and became the party of the long-term bennies, the gimmedat immigrants, the art-grant dependants and the deviants.

We’re now a ‘first-world nation’ which can’t even make its own steel or manage its own utilities. I despair, I have no kids but I worry for my nieces. I’m sure they’ll be fine but it should have been so much better. I did my bit. It wasn’t enough to stop the madness.
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 19 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Surely it's just good security not to leave years of potentially sensitive information lurking on whatsapp ready to be stolen with a single mobile device?

How many of us would like all our whatsapp messaging in the public domain anyway?

What boggles me is that politicians are allowed to use it for work related comms at all.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 19 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were using WhatsApp to discuss and decide political policy so yes, it should be available for scrutiny, unlike the banter yer mate sends. Even if you think it shouldn’t be available, the diligent deletion of all of it while pledging full transparency (they meant for others) should be concerning.
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 20 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
virus wrote:
We all did, Its just most people gave up in their late 20s/ early 30s at a guess, I dont know many people of your generation that have only just given up on them all.


He probably did when he was in his 20s but the dementia made him forget.


True, I think.
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 20 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
As a chap from a working class background in the twilight of a professional career I wonder how Labour abandoned the working class (or how the working class was replaced by an underclass and a new, barely self-sufficient middle class) and became the party of the long-term bennies, the gimmedat immigrants, the art-grant dependants and the deviants.


When a creature is dying the parasites move in to finish the job. This country died in WWII and has been shambling around, zombie-like, ever since.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 20 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
virus wrote:
Mr Polar Bear,

With respect, Please teach me how you have managed to get to the age you are now and yet have only just lost faith in politicians? I would like to regain some of the blissful ignorance of youth that in your case seems to have never looked at a calendar.

Respectfully
Virus


Sadly I actully thought politicians were there for us at one time. I am an idiot.


Mate, you live 'on the water'.
You are, in fact, an island.

You can be forgiven. Laughing

My faith in reasoned politics waned during g the Tony Blah years. Cameron sealed that when he was permitted to walk after his preposterous brexit defeat. (Should have been tarred and feathered.)

We fucked ourselves by leaving Europe.
Leaving a union when the membership is your biggest marketplace is lunacy.

And farag (Brexit jihadist) is still free to roam and spout.

His brexit predictions failed. More boats and more asylum seekers now than before we left the European Union.
What was it all for?
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 23 Jan 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/matt-hancocks-former-aide-gina-24418666.amp


This is the sort of elected trash we are forced to contend with.

I blame their peers.

Matt Hancock. (Former MP/Cabinet Minster/Adulterer

Health Secretary blew off his own covid rules.

Was pumping his personally appointed secretary/adulteress.

The sort of behaviour that will instill confidence in respectable citizens that politicians are untrustworthy scoundrels.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 08 Feb 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you're wrong. It's only the Tory party that reeks of corruption.

Absolutely no stench in the SNP.

Oh wait...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/08/scottish-health-secretary-michael-matheson-resigns-ipad-roaming-bill

Matheson was being investigated by Holyrood authorities after he admitted his sons had used his iPad to watch football matches on their Christmas holiday in Morocco, running up a £10,935 data roaming bill.

£11k for football matches? Surely more to it than that.
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PostPosted: 19:30 - 08 Feb 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
No, you're wrong. It's only the Tory party that reeks of corruption.

Absolutely no stench in the SNP.

Oh wait...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/08/scottish-health-secretary-michael-matheson-resigns-ipad-roaming-bill

Matheson was being investigated by Holyrood authorities after he admitted his sons had used his iPad to watch football matches on their Christmas holiday in Morocco, running up a £10,935 data roaming bill.

£11k for football matches? Surely more to it than that.


He's been buying call girls at the taxpayers sexpence Cool
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 08 Feb 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Matheson had initially claimed that the iPad bill was so large because he had not realised his sim card was out of date and no longer in contract, but insisted it was a legitimate parliamentary expense.

Would it really cost that much?

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Holyrood officials accepted his word, and agreed that £3,000 of that would be paid through his office expenses while the remainder would be funded by parliament.

So the taxpayer still paid it all!
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 08 Feb 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's go with 1080p HD taking around 3GB an hour to stream. Match warm up, both halves, post match analysis... 4 hours tops. 12GB of data. If I say to, for example, Vodafone I'm after roaming data for Morocco they charge that at ~£7 per day for 25GB. Being generous we'll say the kids are streaming for 12hrs and you get hit with £14 per day.

£10,000 equates to running 25 iPads for 12 hours per day... for a month Thinking

So not data. In-app purchases charged to the contract?

<addendum> the alternative is the government paying 10x the going rate for data. That sounds more likely.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 09 Feb 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay £32.99 a month on Sims4homes for unlimited data.

Now I'm not sure if this is UK only but wouldn't have thought it would be like £11,000 to move it outside UK

I think someone's been browsing the equivalent of 0898 numbers
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 09 Feb 2024    Post subject: Reply with quote

bhinso wrote:
I think someone's been browsing the equivalent of 0898 numbers

https://i.imgur.com/sbTe2KQ.png

Tut Tut Tut Tut
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