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PostPosted: 22:03 - 26 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the one hand:

https://lgbt.police.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/MPPrideInLondon_Parade_Crop.jpg

but also:

https://static.independent.co.uk/2022/04/01/23/SEI94201402.jpg

Makes you wonder what they're teaching the trainees.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 26 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:


Do you think they were (institutionally Rolling Eyes ) told to go out, stick rainbow symbols all over themselves and act like gormless twats or was it all self inflicted?
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 31 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both.

The scotch parliament has taken another step into loony land with this consultation which you can still have your say on that is aimed at shitting on the common man.
Somewhere in that guff there's the claim that sex didn't make it into one of their other censorship laws because it might have been of benefit to men.

https://consult.gov.scot/criminal-justice/reforming-the-criminal-law-to-address-misogyny/
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 31 May 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jmoan wrote:
Both.

The scotch parliament has taken another step into loony land with this consultation which you can still have your say on that is aimed at shitting on the common man.
Somewhere in that guff there's the claim that sex didn't make it into one of their other censorship laws because it might have been of benefit to men.

https://consult.gov.scot/criminal-justice/reforming-the-criminal-law-to-address-misogyny/


After a quick scan through, it seems to me that there's nothing mentioned in that legislation that wasn't already illegal.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 01 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After a quick scan through, it seems to me that there's nothing mentioned in that legislation that wasn't already illegal.


Yes but if you make it more illegal people are less likely to commit the crime Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 11 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see Wee Willie Krankie has been arrested.
Former First Minister Nicola Sturgeon arrested in SNP finance inquiry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65871857
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 11 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

What a surprise.

The unemployed of Scotland (her electorates) will have a BLM-esque riot in the cities now. Anitifa, Tallyban and Cockwork Orange (not the prodie dogs) will be in attendance.
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 11 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Released without charge pending further investigations. Didn’t take long. Her stock answer of “I don’t recall” must have served her well, and since any evidence of misplaced donations must be embedded in the SNP’s own unreliable accounts I imagine it’ll be beyond the wit of Scottish plod to prove, even if they themselves weren’t already politicised.
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 12 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kawasaki Jimbo wrote:
Released without charge pending further investigations. Didn’t take long. Her stock answer of “I don’t recall” must have served her well, and since any evidence of misplaced donations must be embedded in the SNP’s own unreliable accounts I imagine it’ll be beyond the wit of Scottish plod to prove, even if they themselves weren’t already politicised.


'I don't recall' gives too much away.

Since its 'real law' and not some party politics among honourable ladies, gentlemen and the Rainbow Whankers, a 'No Comment' would have been well advised.

The trick to a defence is not to make the prosecution's case for them.

Remain Schtum.
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PostPosted: 11:23 - 12 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'I don't recall' gives too much away.

Since its 'real law' and not some party politics among honourable ladies, gentlemen and the Rainbow Whankers, a 'No Comment' would have been well advised.

The trick to a defence is not to make the prosecution's case for them.

Remain Schtum.


But make sure you mention when questioned, something you may later rely on in court. But mention it quietly out of the corner of your mouth and don't make a big thing of it at the time.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 12 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose that's why you'd have a lawyer along side you. It does no good to honestly answer "where were you on the 25th?" and come back with "sleeping with an intern in the Marriot Hotel" which is typical of politicians Wink

Although in Wee Jimmy's case the police probably wouldn't take such an answer so seriously but hey...

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...anything's possible Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 20 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

“Is your husband also innocent of any wrongdoing?”

https://order-order.com/2023/06/20/nicola-ive-done-nothing-wrong-sturgeon-cant-also-attest-to-her-husbands-innocence

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PostPosted: 23:50 - 20 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humza Youssef needs to just sit the Sturgeonfuhrer and her consort down and ask them straight where's the cash. If they can't give a straight answer then ditch them both. Go hardcore or go home.
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PostPosted: 03:45 - 21 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
Humza Youssef needs to just sit the Sturgeonfuhrer and her consort down and ask them straight where's the cash. If they can't give a straight answer then ditch them both. Go hardcore or go home.


He has a very easy task.

White?

Guilty.

Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 21 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought we all knew where the money went...

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PostPosted: 13:47 - 21 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:

That's just a wee dram in the big picture of things.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 21 Jun 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
Ribenapigeon wrote:
Humza Youssef needs to just sit the Sturgeonfuhrer and her consort down and ask them straight where's the cash. If they can't give a straight answer then ditch them both. Go hardcore or go home.


He has a very easy task.

Pasty?

Guilty.

Rolling Eyes


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PostPosted: 22:30 - 02 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now we have Orkney nationalism.....

Orkney council to look at proposals to become territory of Norway

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-66066448
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 02 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Now we have Orkney nationalism.....

Orkney council to look at proposals to become territory of Norway

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-66066448


Cool. Im trying to start a campaign for Aberdeen and Shire declaring independence as well, I even have a manifesto all ready to go.

Manifesto for the Independence of Aberdeen and Shire from Scotland and the United Kingdom and its establishment as a City-State.

We, the people of Aberdeen and Shire, declare our desire for independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain. We believe that as a distinct region with our own unique identity, culture, and economy, we would be better served by governing ourselves and making decisions that reflect our values and priorities.

Our region is rich in natural resources, including oil and gas reserves, fertile farmland, and a beautiful coastline that attracts tourists from around the world. We have a thriving tech sector, a vibrant arts and culture scene, and a long history of innovation and entrepreneurship. We believe that as an independent city-state, we would be able to fully leverage these strengths to create a prosperous and sustainable future for our people.

We also believe that independence is necessary to address the challenges facing our region. The UK government has historically overlooked the needs of Scotland and its distinct regions, including Aberdeen and Shire. This has led to a lack of investment in infrastructure, education, and healthcare, leaving our communities struggling to keep up with the rest of the UK. As a city-state, we would have the power to make decisions that reflect our unique needs and priorities, and to invest in the infrastructure and services that will support our growth and development.

Finally, we believe that independence is a matter of principle. As a people, we have the right to self-determination and the freedom to govern ourselves. We believe that the UK's current political system does not represent our values or reflect our vision for the future. We believe that as an independent city-state, we can create a more just, equitable, and sustainable society, one that is built on the principles of democracy, equality, and human rights.

We recognize that the road to independence will not be easy. It will require hard work, collaboration, and sacrifice. We will need to establish a new government, currency, and international relations, and address concerns around trade, immigration, and security. But we believe that with determination and a clear vision, we can overcome these challenges and create a brighter future for ourselves and our children.

We therefore call on all the people of Aberdeen and Shire to unite behind this vision of independence, to work together to build a better future for ourselves and our region, and to declare our independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain.


What do you think?
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 02 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Now we have Orkney nationalism.....

Orkney council to look at proposals to become territory of Norway

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-66066448


The headline bears no resemblance to the actual story.


https://www.orcadian.co.uk/council-leader-seeks-greater-autonomy-for-orkney/
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 02 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:


Cool. Im trying to start a campaign for Aberdeen and Shire declaring independence as well, I even have a manifesto all ready to go.

Manifesto for the Independence of Aberdeen and Shire from Scotland and the United Kingdom and its establishment as a City-State.

We, the people of Aberdeen and Shire, declare our desire for independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain. We believe that as a distinct region with our own unique identity, culture, and economy, we would be better served by governing ourselves and making decisions that reflect our values and priorities.

Our region is rich in natural resources, including oil and gas reserves, fertile farmland, and a beautiful coastline that attracts tourists from around the world. We have a thriving tech sector, a vibrant arts and culture scene, and a long history of innovation and entrepreneurship. We believe that as an independent city-state, we would be able to fully leverage these strengths to create a prosperous and sustainable future for our people.

We also believe that independence is necessary to address the challenges facing our region. The UK government has historically overlooked the needs of Scotland and its distinct regions, including Aberdeen and Shire. This has led to a lack of investment in infrastructure, education, and healthcare, leaving our communities struggling to keep up with the rest of the UK. As a city-state, we would have the power to make decisions that reflect our unique needs and priorities, and to invest in the infrastructure and services that will support our growth and development.

Finally, we believe that independence is a matter of principle. As a people, we have the right to self-determination and the freedom to govern ourselves. We believe that the UK's current political system does not represent our values or reflect our vision for the future. We believe that as an independent city-state, we can create a more just, equitable, and sustainable society, one that is built on the principles of democracy, equality, and human rights.

We recognize that the road to independence will not be easy. It will require hard work, collaboration, and sacrifice. We will need to establish a new government, currency, and international relations, and address concerns around trade, immigration, and security. But we believe that with determination and a clear vision, we can overcome these challenges and create a brighter future for ourselves and our children.

We therefore call on all the people of Aberdeen and Shire to unite behind this vision of independence, to work together to build a better future for ourselves and our region, and to declare our independence from the United Kingdom of Great Britain.


What do you think?


Does that mean they are allowed to detain and deport Dundonians at the border and shoot Fifers on sight?

Sounds like a plan.
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 02 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
Polarbear wrote:
Now we have Orkney nationalism.....

Orkney council to look at proposals to become territory of Norway

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-66066448


The headline bears no resemblance to the actual story.


https://www.orcadian.co.uk/council-leader-seeks-greater-autonomy-for-orkney/


Yes it does.....

"On the street in Orkney people come up and say to me when are we going to pay back the dowry, when are we going back to Norway,

So there, everyone in Orkney wants to leave jockland and become Norwegian.

Social media rules. They'll probably chuck you in Scarpa Flow as an undesirable.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does that mean they are allowed to detain and deport Dundonians at the border and shoot Fifers on sight?

Sounds like a plan.


We look forward to having excellent relations with our neighbours.
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PostPosted: 01:39 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
Islander wrote:


The headline bears no resemblance to the actual story.


https://www.orcadian.co.uk/council-leader-seeks-greater-autonomy-for-orkney/


Yes it does.....

"On the street in Orkney people come up and say to me when are we going to pay back the dowry, when are we going back to Norway,

So there, everyone in Orkney wants to leave jockland and become Norwegian.

Social media rules. They'll probably chuck you in Scarpa Flow as an undesirable.


It doesn't.

Vox pop type quotes are generally unrepresentative and Orcadians are generally much much smarter than that.

Chucked in Scapa Flow? I doubt it. I've been contributing to public service and the economy here for 33 years lol. I like Norway and Norwegians. We do have close ties with Hordaland anyway. We could do a lot worse.

But seriously...

The discussions are on whether becoming a Crown protectorate or one of the other models would be advantageous and if they were to be generally accepted as a way forward it would be a long term plan anyway. To quote the article:

"Councillor James Stockan is calling for “alternative models of governance” to be explored, so as to bring about “greater fiscal security and economic opportunities” for Orkney.

His motion, due to be discussed at a general meeting of the council next Tuesday, asks for investigations to be carried out into options for “greater subsidiarity and autonomy.”

As an example of the options which could be explored, the notice of motion points to Nordic connections, like the Faroe Islands, which is a self-governing territory of Denmark; and British Crown dependencies like the Isle of Man or the Bailiwick of Guernsey."


This has a lot to do with the Islands being generally underfunded and under resourced for the amount we actually contribute. We've been arguing that we should receive the Road Equivalent Tariff for our ferry services - something that the Western Isles have enjoyed since 2008. Our oil reserve fund doesn't reflect the amount the islands have contributed to North Sea oil over the years. We've had to fight to get decent comms links (that particular one was suddenly improved after we bought into the Faroese fibre links and did a chunk of it ourselves.
Power cable capacity wasn't up to the job of exporting the renewable energy we generate here until fairly recently (we're among the world leaders for renewable research and development and the Council here has investments in that). There's so much more as well.

So yes, having a greater amount of autonomy would play well for us.

Mind you, this was raised in 2017 and rejected but then at that time we had European support and funding available...
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PostPosted: 01:41 - 03 Jul 2023    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ribenapigeon wrote:
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Does that mean they are allowed to detain and deport Dundonians at the border and shoot Fifers on sight?

Sounds like a plan.


We look forward to having excellent relations with our neighbours.


Even Fifers?

There goes any remaining credibility you may have had.
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