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PostPosted: 20:43 - 03 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It turns out that England and Wales have their highest drug deaths since 1993. Rolling Eyes


hardly surprising when you place people under house arrest for a year is it.
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to v or not to v wrote:
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It turns out that England and Wales have their highest drug deaths since 1993. Rolling Eyes


hardly surprising when you place people under house arrest for a year is it.


So drug abuse is linked to mental illness and so shouldn't be considered a crime?

I'm playing. The numbers relate to the latter part of 2019 and the early part of 2020, only 3 months of which were lockdown.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 03 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
There just aren't really up sides to Scottish independence for the Scots beyond flag waving, not that there is anything wrong with flag waving of course. Glasgow residents are upset that their city is a dump full of scum and hereoin and they think independence will fix it because oil or something.
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 04 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
There just aren't really up sides to Scottish independence for the Scots beyond flag waving, not that there is anything wrong with flag waving of course. Glasgow residents are upset that their city is a dump full of scum and hereoin and they think independence will fix it because oil or something.


I'm sure the Scottish people will look upon that ignorant and patronising all knowing and wise statement with favour... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 04 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Islander wrote:
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
There just aren't really up sides to Scottish independence for the Scots beyond flag waving, not that there is anything wrong with flag waving of course. Glasgow residents are upset that their city is a dump full of scum and hereoin and they think independence will fix it because oil or something.


I'm sure the Scottish people will look upon that ignorant and patronising all knowing and wise statement with favour... Rolling Eyes


Who do you think cares by this stage? Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 04 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
There's a nobility to self-determination that's hard to quantify or even qualify so I don't think it should be so easily knocked. That being said the irony that "freedom" is being dangled like a carrot by authoritarians...
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 04 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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self-determination


Problematic.
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PostPosted: 00:51 - 05 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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There's a nobility to self-determination that's hard to quantify or even qualify so I don't think it should be so easily knocked. That being said the irony that "freedom" is being dangled like a carrot by authoritarians...


Definitely, but this self-determination should be extended to rural Scotland who may not want to be part of the Edin-Glo indyref movement.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 05 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Im-a-Ridah wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
There's a nobility to self-determination that's hard to quantify or even qualify so I don't think it should be so easily knocked. That being said the irony that "freedom" is being dangled like a carrot by authoritarians...


Definitely, but this self-determination should be extended to rural Scotland who may not want to be part of the Edin-Glo indyref movement.


There's a strong pro-independence movement in rural areas as well as the Central Belt.
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 05 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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There's a nobility to self-determination that's hard to quantify or even qualify so I don't think it should be so easily knocked. That being said the irony that "freedom" is being dangled like a carrot by authoritarians...


Freedom from what though? English tyranny? Rolling Eyes

What are they going to do with this supposed “freedom”? They don’t seem to know. It really feels like it’s all based on a dislike of the English, an ancient resentment which will cause them to cut off their nose to spite their face.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=766HnfIIl-k

You can draw parallels with Brexit, but the UK has the economic strength to “go it alone.” Similarly, Catalonia has the strongest economy in Spain. Scotland already benefits from the Barnett subsidy which was originally proposed as a temporary measure to aid devolution, and the public sector employs 30% of Scots compared to 20% in England. Yet they will not say how the Scottish economy would have to change.

Has devolution changed Scotland noticeably?

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PostPosted: 12:34 - 05 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Freedom from what though? English tyranny? Rolling Eyes


Apparently not tyrannical enough. The SNP are much better at tyranny.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 05 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'm sure the Scottish people will look upon that <s>ignorant and patronising</s> all knowing and wise statement with favour... Rolling Eyes


Maybe they should look at what else is happening.

Penny Mordaunt dismantles ‘delusional’ SNP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcTuO0uOeu4

Craig Murray was recently jailed for criticising the courts.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/aug/01/alex-salmond-blogger-craig-murray-hands-himself-into-police-to-begin-jail-term

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There is a plain truth that should be stated. Had Murray wished to reveal the names, he had the capacity and contacts to have them mirrored all over the internet in places where Scottish jurisdiction does not run. Murray has the knowledge, resource and access to initiate this in ways that could never be traced back to him. Anyone with a basic understanding of web activism can see that Murray has never wanted these names released. Or they would have been.

In my last report I recounted that an experienced journalist told me that they had never seen a judge so “emotionally invested”, as Dorrian against Craig Murray.

We now know that one reason Murray was kept waiting an agonising ten weeks for the verdict after the main hearing was that Dorrian was busy writing a report for the Scottish government. This tackles sexual assault trials and how to increase conviction rates.

Dorrian’s recommendations in that report include the abolition of juries in sexual assault trials, and the end of the right of the defendant’s lawyers to cross-examine the accuser in court proceedings.
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 06 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
This thing about famous ppl being accused by anonymous minions goes back to the debate about whether defendants should also be anonymous. The whole "other victims may come forward if the defendant's identity is publicised" implies that the original case is weak Thinking
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 06 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Jmoan wrote:


Penny Mordaunt dismantles ‘delusional’ SNP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcTuO0uOeu4



Yes please Penny Wub
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 17 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
BBC News wrote:
The Scottish government is seeking to make many of its emergency coronavirus powers permanent, including the ability to close schools, introduce lockdowns and operate virtual courts.

Scottish Conservative MSP Murdo Fraser said: "These powers were intended to be temporary measures to deal with the pandemic.

"The fact that SNP ministers are now seeking to make many of them permanent is a clear sign they are unwilling to give up their control over people's lives.

"It is a dangerous route to go down to allow ministers to implement sweeping powers upon society on a whim."


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The question is, can we accommodate Scottish refugees too? Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 18 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The question is, can we accommodate Scottish refugees too? Laughing


They'll be a lower priority now 'cos Afghanistan Wink
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 18 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The question is, can we accommodate Scottish refugees too? Laughing


They'll be a lower priority now 'cos Afghanistan Wink


The next question is, where can English refugees go to flee from Scottish and Islamic fundamentalism here? Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 18 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The next question is, where can English refugees go to flee from Scottish and Islamic fundamentalism here? Laughing


30 years ago that would have been easy: just pick one of the ex-colonies with weather you like.

Canada? A communist version of the US.
Oz & NZ? Someone coughs and the army impose a curfew.
Africa's never been great (too hot)

I'd probably go for either India or the Falkland Islands Smile
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 18 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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chickenstrip wrote:
The next question is, where can English refugees go to flee from Scottish and Islamic fundamentalism here? Laughing


30 years ago that would have been easy: just pick one of the ex-colonies with weather you like.

Canada? A communist version of the US.
Oz & NZ? Someone coughs and the army impose a curfew.
Africa's never been great (too hot)

I'd probably go for either India or the Falkland Islands Smile


I would very much like to go to northern India, within reach of the Himalaya.
Does the Falklands still have exploding sheep?
But you're right; options are very limited these days Sad
Well, I suppose we'll just have to stay and kill all the wokesters here.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 18 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
Easy-X wrote:
BBC News wrote:
The Scottish government is seeking to make many of its emergency coronavirus powers permanent, including the ability to close schools, introduce lockdowns and operate virtual courts.

Scottish Conservative MSP Murdo Fraser said: "These powers were intended to be temporary measures to deal with the pandemic.

"The fact that SNP ministers are now seeking to make many of them permanent is a clear sign they are unwilling to give up their control over people's lives.

"It is a dangerous route to go down to allow ministers to implement sweeping powers upon society on a whim."


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The opposite should be true. This is an opportunity to not only end the temporary powers but to get rid of excessive powers that were present prior to the pandemic. Failure to do so is bad faith and makes asking for temporary powers in the future very difficult.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 22 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
SNP and The Greens eh? Sorry, what was an independent Scotland's future prosperity supposed to be based on? Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 22 Aug 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote
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SNP and The Greens eh? Sorry, what was an independent Scotland's future prosperity supposed to be based on? Laughing


Rejoining the EU. The EU funds the poorer countries within the union....
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But we all know that's not going to happen.
No, Scots have banged on about how their oil and gas is going to make independence affordable.
This is a coalition that isn't going to last, methinks.
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