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Posted: 14:28 - 31 Jan 2021 Post subject: Re: Vaccine passports |
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Through 2020 younger people were asked to sacrifice having a quality time, basically to just stay at home and avoid socialising to keep older people from dying. |
And still they died. So that was a bit of failure, wasn't it? Are we really trying to protect old people from death? Seems a bit futile to me, given that we haven't yet discovered the key to immortality. Still, perhaps some people feel if they don't encounter death around them through their lives, they can believe they'll live forever.
Personally, I think it is useful to consider your own mortality every now and again, provides a little perspective on life. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 14:38 - 31 Jan 2021 Post subject: Re: Vaccine passports |
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | By your logic of live fast die young we should encourage people to get high and drunk and drive as fast as possible because "they will die anyway" |
Now you're getting the idea!
A couple of things spring to mind. One is that the average age of death from covid is very close to the average age of death.
Two is that considering your own mortality does indeed help you to make some life choices, which in my case has definitely led to a more enjoyable life overall. It doesn't need you to take things to extremes - just an encouragement to get out and enjoy life rather than sit cocooned at home, afraid of everything. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 14:45 - 31 Jan 2021 Post subject: Re: Vaccine passports |
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Well it would certainly clean the gene pool of stupid people |
No one is suggesting you taking unnecessary risks when there is a definite danger to face. I'm not talking just about the current pandemic, but I do wonder if people will be afraid to live their lives even after it has gone away (to the extent that any infectious disease goes away). That would be a great shame. Infectious diseases and many other risks are a fact of life.
It's also a case of how much of the risk you take in life should be your choice, or chosen for you by government. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 16:52 - 31 Jan 2021 Post subject: Re: Vaccine passports |
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Vaccine passports could end up being the latest example of the selfishness of the baby boomer. Through 2020 younger people were asked to sacrifice having a quality time, basically to just stay at home and avoid socialising to keep older people from dying. It would be incredibly selfish and unfair for those older people in the higher risk groups over 50, newly vaccinated to jet off to Spain or go to the Pub while those who sacrificed so much so save their lives are denied the same opportunities. But this is very much the attitude of many boomers, but hopefully a minority. | Although right now, thanks to lockdown, and businesses closing, retired people are pretty much the only people that can afford to go on holiday. Tens of thousands of people have lost their jobs, livelihoods and even homes. Hundreds of small businesses have collapsed, many permanently and the tax payer will be paying for this for years to come. This is to try and protect the older members of our population, who, with their triple-lock pensions and mortgage free homes can actually afford to stay at home. As Chickenstrip said, the average age of someone who dies from Covid is almost the same as the normal average life expectancy. Lockdown after lockdown isn't working, the elderly are still dying and yet the whole of the country is having to suffer because of it. ____________________ Current bike: ST1100 "Big Red" |
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Posted: 17:01 - 31 Jan 2021 Post subject: Re: Vaccine passports |
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Posted: 17:11 - 31 Jan 2021 Post subject: |
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But we don't know how many people the virus itself has killed, because of the daft way deaths are totalled up. Have you noticed that nobody has died of flu lately? Why on Earth would they include flu deaths in the covid total?
Anyone who dies "within 28 days of being tested positive." What kind of ridiculous way to categorise is that? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Not sure if discussed here or other thread etc.
If the current lock-down doesnt curb the trend in infection rates what's the next move going to be?
Should we then Euthanize those most at risk before they test positive in order to prevent the disease spreading from vulnerable to vulnerable whilst gaining the ability to infect and harm the less vulnerable.
I think the term is Cull. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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I'm thinking that what Covid-19 exposes is a lack of redundancy in various systems: the NHS may have been running very efficiently pre-2020 but throw it a curveball and it'll fall over with the first gust of wind*
Also highlighted is what we think of as "essential." Food & Booze - essential, not clogging up the NHS - essential, sacrificing the young for the old - essential. Not essential: hairdressers, tattoo artists, hotels, restaurants, pubs, holidays abroad.... mental health, cancer treatments err... social unity being the least essential thing apparently
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Still, since chickenstrip doesn't believe people die of COVID-19 |
Silly boy! I've never said that. I just question whether the government has done much to protect anyone. I would suggest that most people have done what they can to protect themselves thus far. I know you agree with whatever the Tory Party says, whatever their current line happens to be, but some of us don't have that much trust in them, or any other bunch of politicians for that matter, and with good reason. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | I just question whether the government has done much to protect anyone. I would suggest that most people have done what they can to protect themselves thus far. |
By following government advice. |
Do you think everything the government has done through this pandemic has been effective in reducing the problem?
I just don't think that draconian lockdowns are the way to go. Nor does the WHO for that matter. I think we could get a good segment of the economy working again with care and the proper precautions, mostly protecting those in known vulnerable categories. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Btw Jimbo, when I quoted you quoting me, it didn't work properly, but I noticed your quote marks looked a bit different. Changed them out and it worked fine. So something to do with that. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 84 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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