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Nobby the Bastard
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 03 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how do you think that smallpox and polio were eradicated?

Extra tin foil?
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 03 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

GettinBetter wrote:
stinkwheel wrote:
....Once again. The test is fine but they now have a new one that does influenza too.

It's like Ford stopped making escorts, it doesn't mean ford escorts don't work, they just make mondeos now instead.


Ah, so you mean they've put both bottles of snake oil into one, to save on bottles. None of which work but by god they sell for a pretty penny.


You can't just admit you're wrong can you? Laughing


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PostPosted: 21:04 - 03 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
So, how do you think that smallpox and polio were eradicated?

Extra tin foil?


Noooooo Ivermectin of course! Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 03 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
So, how do you think that smallpox and polio were eradicated?

Extra tin foil?



How is Gene Therapy a Vaccine? Oh, ok let's just change the definition, nobody cares, they're all too stupid to know anyway.

"Since 2003, the top of the WHO Pandemic Preparedness
homepage has contained the following statement: “An influenza
pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus appears against
which the human population has no immunity, resulting in
several simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous num-
bers of deaths and illness.” 6 However, on 4 May 2009, scarcely
one month before the H1N1 pandemic was declared, the web
page was altered in response to a query from a CNN reporter.7
The phrase “enormous numbers of deaths and illness” had been
removed and the revised web page simply read as follows: “An in-
fluenza pandemic may occur when a new influenza virus appears
against which the human population has no immunity.” Months
later, the Council of Europe would cite this alteration as evidence
that WHO changed its definition of pandemic influenza to en-
able it to declare a pandemic without having to demonstrate the
intensity of the disease caused by the H1N1 virus.3
"

https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/89/7/11-086173.pdf

Seems the Council of Europe pulled them on it too...
https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/2021/03/22/the-definition-of-pandemic-has-been-altered/


What about extending the Pandemic? Oh we'll change that too, if we just remove the part about causing large amounts of hospitalisations and deaths, it can go on as long as we like. How? well, we'll just use 'cases'. we can invent cases as long as we like.
https://www.citizensjournal.us/the-cdc-suddenly-changes-the-definition-of-vaccine-and-vaccination/
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/11/05/cdc-emails-our-definition-of-vaccine-is-problematic/

Well they'd have to wouldn't they, seeing as it doesn't work. But that aside, it doesn't matter what they're changing it to, it's just that they're changing it to suit their own agenda.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 03 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

GettinBetter wrote:


How is Gene Therapy a Vaccine? Oh, ok let's just change the definition, nobody cares, they're all too stupid to know anyway.


Firstly, there's no gene therapy involved in any of the covid vaccines in current use. This has been explained ad nauseum but again, it doesn't fit your conspiracy-based agenda does it?

Then there's the cherry picking:

GettinBetter wrote:
"Since 2003, the top of the WHO Pandemic Preparedness
homepage has contained the following statement: “An influenza
pandemic occurs when a new influenza virus appears against
which the human population has no immunity, resulting in
several simultaneous epidemics worldwide with enormous num-
bers of deaths and illness.” 6 However, on 4 May 2009, scarcely
one month before the H1N1 pandemic was declared, the web
page was altered in response to a query from a CNN reporter.7
The phrase “enormous numbers of deaths and illness” had been
removed and the revised web page simply read as follows: “An in-
fluenza pandemic may occur when a new influenza virus appears
against which the human population has no immunity.” Months
later, the Council of Europe would cite this alteration as evidence
that WHO changed its definition of pandemic influenza to en-
able it to declare a pandemic without having to demonstrate the
intensity of the disease caused by the H1N1 virus.3
"

https://www.who.int/bulletin/volumes/89/7/11-086173.pdf


From the abstract at the very top of the page:

Abstract There has been considerable controversy over the past year, particularly in Europe, over whether the World Health Organization
(WHO) changed its definition of pandemic influenza in 2009, after novel H1N1 influenza was identified. Some have argued that not
only was the definition changed, but that it was done to pave the way for declaring a pandemic. Others claim that the definition was
never changed and that this allegation is completely unfounded. Such polarized views have hampered our ability to draw important
conclusions. This impasse, combined with concerns over potential conflicts of interest and doubts about the proportionality of the
response to the H1N1 influenza outbreak, has undermined the public trust in health officials and our collective capacity to effectively
respond to future disease threats.
WHO did not change its definition of pandemic influenza for the simple reason that it has never formally defined pandemic influenza.
While WHO has put forth many descriptions of pandemic influenza, it has never established a formal definition and the criteria for
declaring a pandemic caused by the H1N1 virus derived from “pandemic phase” definitions, not from a definition of “pandemic influenza”.
The fact that despite ten years of pandemic preparedness activities no formal definition of pandemic influenza has been formulated
reveals important underlying assumptions about the nature of this infectious disease. In particular, the limitations of “virus-centric”
approaches merit further attention and should inform ongoing efforts to “learn lessons” that will guide the response to future outbreaks
of novel infectious diseases.


That gives a slightly different slant on things, doesn't it?

GettinBetter wrote:


As for that pile of conspiracy shite, the first section of the title page tells us all we need to know about the credibility of that particular site

https://undercurrents723949620.wordpress.com/

Laughing Laughing Laughing

GettinBetter wrote:

What about extending the Pandemic? Oh we'll change that too, if we just remove the part about causing large amounts of hospitalisations and deaths, it can go on as long as we like. How? well, we'll just use 'cases'. we can invent cases as long as we like.
https://www.citizensjournal.us/the-cdc-suddenly-changes-the-definition-of-vaccine-and-vaccination/
https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/11/05/cdc-emails-our-definition-of-vaccine-is-problematic/

Well they'd have to wouldn't they, seeing as it doesn't work. But that aside, it doesn't matter what they're changing it to, it's just that they're changing it to suit their own agenda.


Again, citizensjournal.us follow a pandemic denial and vaccine denial agenda. Non-credible.

Really, you should give up. Follow the conspiracy sheeple and declare your undying faith in their message by all means but why bother keep posting your shite here when it keeps getting discredited? I doubt many here take you seriously rather you're seen as a bit of a fool.

Have you considered changing your screen name to GettingMoreParanoid? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 03 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm betting he's on a gchq list.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 03 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
I'm betting he's on a gchq list.


Probably. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 04 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has the definition of gene therapy changed? I thought that was to do with fixing defective DNA Thinking
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 04 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Has the definition of gene therapy changed? I thought that was to do with fixing defective DNA Thinking


It hasn't. People are confusing the way viruses replicate by invading cells with actually changing people's DNA.

Almost all vaccines use a virus to invade cells and turn them into replication factories so that there is something for the immune system to identify and attack. This is the case with all the covid vaccines.

Thats what viruses do.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 04 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobby the Bastard wrote:
Easy-X wrote:
Has the definition of gene therapy changed? I thought that was to do with fixing defective DNA Thinking


It hasn't. People are confusing the way viruses replicate by invading cells with actually changing people's DNA.

Almost all vaccines use a virus to invade cells and turn them into replication factories so that there is something for the immune system to identify and attack. This is the case with all the covid vaccines.

Thats what viruses do.

The big difference with RNA vaccines like the Corona virus vaccine is that unlike traditional vaccines which introduce the entire viral DNA into cells in order to allow the virus to multiply, RNA vaccines introduce only the virus' RNA. This means that instead of the body reproducing the entire virus in order to produce an immune response, the body reproduces the virus' unique proteins. It is these proteins that trigger an immune response and it is these proteins that the body recognises and attacks when a person becomes infected.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 05 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Covid: Maidstone mother drives to Italy to get daughter jabbed

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"I'd rather risk a vaccine we know a fair amount about than take pot luck with a virus about which we know very little."


Illness Anxiety Disorder by Proxy!
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 05 Jan 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
Covid: Maidstone mother drives to Italy to get daughter jabbed

Quote:
"I'd rather risk a vaccine we know a fair amount about than take pot luck with a virus about which we know very little."


Illness Anxiety Disorder by Proxy!


An unusual story by any MSM standards . . .

I did a little sniffing on the very many & very, very searchable keywords & guess what?

I guess it's possible that such a mummy asked Google to delete any & all internets reference to her before this MONUMENTAL road trip, but then I guess it's equally as possible that this story is jackanory.
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 07 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

An interesting view on the AZ vaccine....

AstraZeneca vaccine: Did nationalism spoil UK's 'gift to the world'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60259302
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PostPosted: 13:01 - 07 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polarbear wrote:
An interesting view on the AZ vaccine....

AstraZeneca vaccine: Did nationalism spoil UK's 'gift to the world'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60259302


Add it to the tombstone of corporate mass-murder Sad
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PostPosted: 00:44 - 14 Feb 2022    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chatting to my mum tonight and she revealed my aunt in East Anglia still barely leaves the house due to Covid paranoia. Apparently she rushes to the shops as soon as they open to avoid meeting anyone.

"...and I don't think she's very happy." No shit!

Failure to thrive - I used to think that was just about babies not putting on weight but apparently it now applies to old people who don't have any social interaction, they whither away Sad
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