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Posted: 19:51 - 26 Feb 2021 Post subject: mate of mine - cadio problem this morning, says it was cramp |
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Me and a mate were out this morning and to cut to the chase, when we got back in the car, he was experiencing some severe pain, and couldn't really move at all
it was pretty alarming - I said where is it hurting, left or right side of chest? he said left
uh oh
i said okay, try and get in the car properly, we're off
he said no no it will go away in a minute - now i appreciate the common sense response is to see a doctor and describe the symptoms to them, but there's no way my mate's ever going to do this
so my question is this: what are the odds it WAS actually some sort of cramp? he spun me a yarn about how his flab interferes with his stomach muscles and yadder yadder
but you can't kid a kidder - it just sounded like total blarney tbh
i haven't googled it - probably should've done that before posting here, but eh - i'll try later
if it had been on his right hand side of his chest i wouldn't be posting this - and to my knowledge it never has happened on that side
he reckons that he's had these sorts of "cramps" going back ten years - but he's way overweight, had some stressful news this morning (is going through a prolonged break up with his mrs, etc.), so i kind of fear the worst
i need to ask him if he;s had similar cramps on RHS of chest - although he might BS me
what does bcf reckon ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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Posted: 20:08 - 26 Feb 2021 Post subject: |
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I get something similar.
Trapped wind - don't laugh, right.
It feels like a cramp, a heart attack, it doesn't manifest itself as wind in the farty burpy or gurgly sense for quite some time.
In fact, just last night I had quite a bad attack, and I haven't had it for about a year or so.
A lot of people who haven't had it go "aw, its just wind, get over yourself", but it's actually extremely distressing, as you really can feel as though you might really be having a heart attack.
After it dissipates (for me, usually about 40 minutes or so), then I feel wiped out, and have to sleep. ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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Posted: 20:09 - 26 Feb 2021 Post subject: |
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I said DON'T laugh.
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Posted: 21:34 - 26 Feb 2021 Post subject: |
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Questions 111 will ask to rule out signs of a cardiac problems are similar to:
Is the pain made worse, or bought on, by shrugging the shoulders?
Is the pain made worse, or bought on, by twisting the upper half of the body to the left and right?
Have you had any pain in the jaw, left arm (at the joint) or back?
Is the pain a ripping or tearing feeling?
Can you feel the pain traveling from one place to another (you'd physically feel it travel. Coming and going in different places is different). If yes then (and take this lightly) that can be a sign of a heart attack.
Palpitations, nausea and being physically unable to go about your normal day to day tasks (such as making a cup of tea or watching T.V) are also alarming signs.
They also ask about heavy bleeding in the last two hours, bruising or some other things depending on what you tell them about how you feel and how it occurred etc.
You'd have to take him at face value and ask him about his medical history to see how true or untrue it is.
Ultimately a trip to A&E and a ECG will read his heart rate levels and rhythm and give him an answer as to what shape he's in. At the current level of admission he'll be out in a few hours if all is well. A&E locally really isn't as busy as it was pre-covid (patient only, or patient and one relative in rare cases) and staggered arrivals mean emptier waiting rooms (early morning is generally best).
If he's not had a talk with a doctor in those ten years then he need to be examined, but if he has a worrying episode in front of you again and can't answer as to why its happening then driving him to A&E really isn't a bad shout. There is such a thing as being so ill you can't think straight, even if its only an episode. Sometimes you need someone else with you.
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Posted: 23:49 - 26 Feb 2021 Post subject: |
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What ever the issue is, ignoring it is very ill advised.
My mother ignored her very high blood pressure for years. Then, when 52 years old, brain artery burst, pronounced dead week after that in the hospital. I got the phone call on my 30th birthday, exactly the day of my birthday. The sad bit is, she knew about her issue all along. I tried several times to persuade her to do something about it and she decided to ignore it. My father even found several medical reports, about her high blood pressure and recomendations for immediate medication, in her drawer at home after she died, that she kept secret from the family. Why am I telling you this? My grandfather, her farther, has been on high blood pressure medication ever since he was 30 years old, he's turning 80 years old this year, still vital and enjoying life. And that is the difference between ignoring your issues and facing them.
So, your mate's issue could be nothing but could also be a future problem that he won't enjoy dealing with later on. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Posted: 14:46 - 27 Feb 2021 Post subject: |
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this morning admitted that his dad had angina, after i told him bluntly that what he's got is angina - still not gonna do owt about it tho
am now 95% sure it *is* angina - nice one freddy
however, also yes Robby - he broke a couple of ribs a few years ago skiing - on the left side...so could also be that too tbf
would honestly bet strong money on angina at this point tho ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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...yes...but it's complicated ____________________ "Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
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If it is angina pectoris, the pain should go away once the physical activity, that triggered it, stops. This typically occurs during exercise, especially in the cold, or even after a hearty meal.
That being said, the condition could get worse over time, meaing it could be triggered even by mild physical activity (excercise) or even when he's idle. Even if angina pectoris is ''just a discomfort'' for him for now, people are not born with this. People get this issue mainly due to atherosclerosis of the coronary arteries and some other way worse related illneses. As far as we know, his angina pains could be only a warning sign of something much worse going on. For instance, untreated atherosclerosis leads to a blockage of the arteries = heart attack.
But, I think he already knows this and decided to ignore it. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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BCF diagnoses again.
The only piece of advice worth taking notice of is going to see a doctor.
The angina issues I had through my late teens, twenties, thirties and early forties only quit when the quacks decided that my high blood pressure was enough of an issue that I wouldn't pass the medical to get a US visa.
Trapped gas is also not much fun, nor the indescribable discomfort that Ankylosing Spondylitis can produce in the rib cage and while I can identify the difference between the three when one presents itself it would be difficult to describe any without it being mistook for the other.
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Or it could just be that if he faced up to his demons and took a tester dose of WindEze, it might stop bothering him
I get angina too, just a little bit, but I don't pretend its not there.
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I very nearly posted < > That whatever you ask of him he won't do anything about it.
I have one of those friends.
Goes like this.
'My jaw aches...and the side of my face ...upto my ear'
See dentist.
'No not going...can't afford time off work'
Etc...
Then he always ends with the in-joke (but not to him)
.....but I'm not complaining'
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The head-in-the-sand thing is too easy to do.
I have to speak severely to myself about putting these things off, so I understand exactly what is going on with OP's mate.
Nah, it'll stop soon
Nah, it'll go away in a day or two
Nah, I'll do something about it [tomorrow]
Well I know I should do something about it, in fact, I googled ... but haven't quite, y'know...
See, its gone, when I lean this way, it doesn't happen.
etc. ad nauseaum
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hellkat wrote: | The head-in-the-sand thing is too easy to do. |
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Howling Terror wrote: | I very nearly posted < > That whatever you ask of him he won't do anything about it.
I have one of those friends.
Goes like this.
'My jaw aches...and the side of my face ...upto my ear'
See dentist.
'No not going...can't afford time off work'
Etc...
Then he always ends with the in-joke (but not to him)
.....but I'm not complaining'
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Did you know gingivitis dissolves bones around the teeth that then just fall out? Other fun stuff that could happen is permanent hearing loss (the infection spreading and dissolving the bones required for hearing; in extreme cases the infection could spread into his brain) and gingivitis also ruins his heart valves. TL; DR: Bad teeth can kill you. ____________________ '87 Honda XBR 500, '96 Kawasaki ZX7R P1, '90 Honda CB-1, '88 Kawasaki GPz550, MZ 150 ETZ
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 27 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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