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PostPosted: 20:43 - 15 Mar 2021    Post subject: Men vs. Women Reply with quote

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So today my 10yo daughter came to me saying she doesn't want to have to walk home from school any more because she's worried about being attacked by a man on the way home (she's always wanted to be allowed to walk herself home from school as it makes her feel grown up but we've always said no until now she's in year 6, also it's a 1 minute / 0.25 mile walk, so this isn't just her coming up with an excuse for being lazy!).

Sorry have I missed something here? I haven't been super tuned-in to current events recently, I don't listen to a lot of radio and I almost never watch broadcast TV (always stream programs of my choosing) but I did catch vaguely a thing a few days ago about a young lady who went missing in London and the suspect was a police officer from Kent.

Next thing I hear there's been protests / borderline riots in London and women arrested for refusing to disperse from the protest. Something about women not feeling safe to walk the streets because of the men in society? Which I have to add I disagree with the protest going ahead on the grounds of us being in the middle of a pandemic lockdown, same as I disapproved of any other protest since lockdown, BLM and others.

Now the police are being slated for the way they handled it. Let's just let everyone run riot during lockdown then shall we? The police aren't taking it seriously and/or it's institutional sexism or playing down of crimes against women.

What?!

Good job this prick wasn't a cab driver ay? Otherwise my fellow cab drivers and I would have a media frenzy on our hands about how our women aren't safe from us cab drivers any more all because one bloke tragically abducted and murdered a young lady... who just happened to be a cab driver. Not sure his profession has fuck all to do with anything does it???!!! So long as the police take it seriously and charge the suspect, which they have.

I heard some bitch on the radio earlier saying something along the lines of 97% of perpetrators of violence against woman are men and men have to be stopped. Well dur! Really? What qualification did this bint train for to come to that conclusion? Here's some more statistics for you...

97% of perpetrators of violence against woman are men

97% of perpetrators of violence against black people are men

97% of perpetrators of violence against gay people are men

97% of perpetrators of violence against midgets are men

97% of perpetrators of violence against Jews are men

97% of perpetrators of violence against people wearing blue T-shirts
are men

97% of perpetrators of violence against Martians are men

97% of perpetrators of violence against MEN are men

So women clearly aren't being victimised BECAUSE they're women are they! We're all in the same fucking boat. 97% of all violence is perpetrated by men. Because men are inherently the more aggressive/violent sex of the species. Does that mean we're all bad? No. Does that mean my 10yo daughter should be scared to walk a 0.25 mile journey home from school in a sleepy rural village for fear of being attacked by a man, and all because of the way the topic has been covered by the press? Hell no! It's worth bearing in mind that 97% is a very small but significant minority of the percentage of men as a whole. Less than 1% of men I'm willing to be are criminally violent. And what about the female 3% committing violence against other men and women? Why are they not being spoken about?

Every 5 minutes there's a new demographic of people in outrage (or other people being outraged on their behalf) because of the discrimination and prejudice against them by white, straight, middle-age males.

Getting sick of this shit.

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Have I got this wrong? Would be nice to get some female input especially!
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 15 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vast majority of violent crime is committed by men. It's the testosterone innit.

The majority of violent men would happily smack another bloke around. It's a very, very small proportion of blokes that would even contemplate hitting a woman let alone do worse.

The bandwagon has been jumped on and it gives women as an oppressed monolithic group the opportunity to throw out some slactivisim - vigils, meaningless slogans, that sort of thing - to show how right on virtuous they are. Some - even sensible folk - get sucked along for the ride.

Part of the issue here is the 'confusion' between what constitutes violence. I mean, we're in an age where the improper use of freshly made up 'pronouns' is considered to be a violent act against a person's identity. Life as a victim is a lot easier than life as a perennial screw-up.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 15 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the insistence that it’s not enough to lead by example, and men are expected to be actively anti with respect to abuse against females, I was trying to think of an instance where I coulda shoulda stepped up, but I couldn’t think of one, it’s probably quite rare and usually criminal.

I recall a neighbour frequently rowing terribly with his live-in girlfriend, but she gave as good as she got and was free to leave. It seemed to be just how they lived their shared lives. Next minute they’d be all lovey-dovey again.

I recall a bloke on a train trying to chat up a woman who was with another woman. He was a bit too persistent (I’m not sure he was all there), she was clearly not interested; polite but distant. The carriage was full and an intervention by any man on board would likely have kicked things off royally. (He was a big f@kker an’ all.) As it was, there was no harm done and the chap got off the train at the next stop. Besides, men chat up women, it’s not always welcome, sometimes it works sometimes not, but it’s how the human race goes on.

I recall getting off a train from London slightly pissed and walking home. A few streets away from the station the small group of commuters had dispersed and I was several yards behind a young woman whose stride was shorter than mine. I was aware that this might be an uncomfortable situation so I slowed down, I might have crossed the road too, but footsteps behind might still have worried her. Don’t know what I could do about it, I just wanted to get home.

Do most women really carry keys like they’re knuckle dusters, as claimed recently?
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PostPosted: 23:58 - 15 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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....and I was several yards behind a young woman whose stride was shorter than mine. I was aware that this might be an uncomfortable situation so I slowed down, I might have crossed the road too, but footsteps behind might still have worried her. Don’t know what I could do about it, I just wanted to get home.


The amount of times I've done this, just so a woman i didn't know and will never see again wouldn't feel uncomfortable.

Yet now I'm presumed guilty of being a potential rapist/murderer?

The left wing women's lib have jumped on this bandwagon.
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well apparently I'm a murdering, paedo, who hates women and is a racist bigot, Oh and a Nazi. I thought I was just a White, Heterosexual, Anglosaxon, Protestant. My Bad.

If you call someone something hard enough and long enough they may just become it out of sheer frustration of trying to deny it.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
I thought I was just a White, Heterosexual, Anglosaxon, Protestant. My Bad.

Gotta agree, as a late-middle-aged man in the same category, expected to take responsibility for everything bad that has, is or will happen, I’m finding it absolutely exhausting. And baffling.
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PostPosted: 00:49 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Joanna? It's Melanie. Are you up for exploiting a murder? Great! Dust off the placards and I'll meet you there in an hour."

Pretty much everyone has come to the same conclusion, seemingly all at the same time: this was a pre-packaged and well prepared outrage event Sad But like The Boy Who Cried Wolf people are starting to get fatigued by this style of protest.

Reclaim These Streets have raised over half a million. Why? To pay the fines of protest organisers. Oh yes, those rules to keep us all safe from Covid-19? "Fuck 'em! Take this money and fuck off."

The central message: we have the money, we have have the media, we're better than you.

Good luck with that, ladies.
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they are not careful, women will find themselves being utterly and totally ignored by the majority of men for fear of being asccused of doing something untoward.

Then the only people who will talk to, look at or otherwise interact with them will be the arseholes.
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PostPosted: 01:15 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Violence by women is grossly underreported. It's like rape stats in Saudi Arabia. If a man slaps his wife the police are quite likely to be involved. If a woman slaps her husband its very rare that the husband will call the cops. You also have to be very careful making accusations against random women such as colleagues because they can make a counter-accusation, and unlike yours, theirs WILL stick. You say she slapped you, well she says it was self defence while you were trying to rape her.

Another good example is drunk women sleeping with ugly men. Obviously this is not something I can relate to Wink. But in any case when the woman wakes up, realises her friends disapprove of her one night guy she either (1) takes the shame of sleeping with someone ugly or (2) claims he raped her and gets tons of sympathy.

As for stopping rapists I recommend the Glock 19.

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Regarding the insistence that it’s not enough to lead by example, and men are expected to be actively anti with respect to abuse against females, I was trying to think of an instance where I coulda shoulda stepped up, but I couldn’t think of one, it’s probably quite rare and usually criminal.

I recall a neighbour frequently rowing terribly with his live-in girlfriend, but she gave as good as she got and was free to leave. It seemed to be just how they lived their shared lives. Next minute they’d be all lovey-dovey again.

I recall a bloke on a train trying to chat up a woman who was with another woman. He was a bit too persistent (I’m not sure he was all there), she was clearly not interested; polite but distant. The carriage was full and an intervention by any man on board would likely have kicked things off royally. (He was a big f@kker an’ all.) As it was, there was no harm done and the chap got off the train at the next stop. Besides, men chat up women, it’s not always welcome, sometimes it works sometimes not, but it’s how the human race goes on.

I recall getting off a train from London slightly pissed and walking home. A few streets away from the station the small group of commuters had dispersed and I was several yards behind a young woman whose stride was shorter than mine. I was aware that this might be an uncomfortable situation so I slowed down, I might have crossed the road too, but footsteps behind might still have worried her. Don’t know what I could do about it, I just wanted to get home.

Do most women really carry keys like they’re knuckle dusters, as claimed recently?


I can give you an example. I saw a car drive past me at speed and stop at the end of the street at which point the guy started threatening his wife through his young daughter. I called the cops, gave them his details, reg etc. He left for a walk with them, cops were sat by his car waiting for him to come back about 3 minutes after I called.
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
As for stopping rapists I recommend the Glock 19.


I suppose the trend is towards bigger handbags these days but I'd have thought a Glock 26 more suitable if 9mm parabellum is your thing.
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PostPosted: 02:02 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume if some male today acted like we did back in my youth he would be in jail accused of just about every offence in the rapists handbook..

Discos were pick up points. You tried it on and 9 times out of 10 you'd get the 'fuck off' or a slap. The other time you might end up getting a grope on a sticky vinyl sofa being watched by 50 jealous puberatii. (Except in the Jungle in North Shields where you were more likely to be the raped one).

What's the safe routine for getting into a ladies knickers now youngsters? Is it all text and dick picks? Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
If they are not careful, women will find themselves being utterly and totally ignored by the majority of men for fear of being asccused of doing something untoward.

Then the only people who will talk to, look at or otherwise interact with them will be the arseholes.


i think internet porn is already making that a thing.
i read a recent American study that claimed that since the lock down, people are masturbating to porn more often(3 times per day on average allegedly), and have less interest in finding a partner for actual sex.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 times a day? I'm not cutting down for any reason, let alone lockdown.
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PostPosted: 10:06 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is to the OP, I'll deal with the rest of you later Rolling Eyes

Well done in making your daughter's fear all about you. You poor, hard done-to fellow Rolling Eyes

Instead of ranting on about how this reflects on men, stop and think about how you help her with her fear and help her adopt strategies to manage her own safety and give her reassurance. Her fear maybe disproportionate at the moment, but it is real.

Trust me, she's not safe, wherever you live. No woman is. Murder and serious assaults are perpetrated by men on women, rarely, but low level approaches and threats happen to women and girls EVERY SINGLE DAY.

She's on the verge of puberty, in a few short years she'll be walking home and will experience cat-calling, propositions, unsolicited comments and worse. She'll get this from schoolboys, male passers by, van drivers, builders, lorry drivers and maybe even taxi drivers. She'll mainly shrug these off but cumulatively this sort of harassment - because that's what it is - wears women down and becomes the norm. It's not fucking "banter" it is an assumption by men that women are fair targets for their leery frustrations and aggressions.

The outrage being expressed by women now is because the recent murder crystallises the worst end of the spectrum of male abuse, yet this sort of daily abuse is treated by the police as not worthy of intervention. Consequently when the worst kind of man continues unchallenged with this sort of behaviour and gets away with it, he may progress to worse crime, murder, rape, assault.

So, be a dad. Stop whining on about how men are demonized and teach your daughter strategies for keeping safe. Teach her that this men will behave this way towards her, that it's not acceptable.
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Stop whining on about how men are demonized and teach your daughter strategies for keeping safe.


My daughter is of the 'woke' generation and she would take issue with the second part this statement, because women shouldn't have to employ strategies for keeping safe. This is called victim-blaming.

Its a feckin' minefield out there for a parent!!!
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tracey Suntan-King wrote:


Instead of ranting on about how this reflects on men, stop and think about how you help her with her fear and help her adopt strategies to manage her own safety and give her reassurance. Her fear maybe disproportionate at the moment, but it is real.

Trust me, she's not safe, wherever you live. No woman is. Murder and serious assaults are perpetrated by men on women, rarely, but low level approaches and threats happen to women and girls EVERY SINGLE DAY.

She's on the verge of puberty, in a few short years she'll be walking home and will experience cat-calling, propositions, unsolicited comments and worse. She'll get this from schoolboys, male passers by, van drivers, builders, lorry drivers and maybe even taxi drivers. She'll mainly shrug these off but cumulatively this sort of harassment - because that's what it is - wears women down and becomes the norm. It's not fucking "banter" it is an assumption by men that women are fair targets for their leery frustrations and aggressions.

The outrage being expressed by women now is because the recent murder crystallises the worst end of the spectrum of male abuse, yet this sort of daily abuse is treated by the police as not worthy of intervention. Consequently when the worst kind of man continues unchallenged with this sort of behavior and gets away with it, he may progress to worse crime, murder, rape, assault.

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The above is experience by, I think, all females. It is a given and can't be explained to men that feeling of being a target, even if it is unintentional. How many of us blokes are guilty of giving unwanted attention? You may not have known it, but you have. I have, I must have, I'm a red blooded bloke. Are we all out to get at women? No! But I can understand why women would think that.
It will become though, that males will be too scared to be in the company of females or even speak with them, for fear of any repercussions of any kind.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How many of us blokes are guilty of giving unwanted attention? You may not have known it, but you have. I have, I must have, I'm a red blooded bloke.


Therein lies a problem. Describe 'unwanted'.

My wife has a mate that dresses outrageously, has fake cans and plumped up lips and wears lots of makeup. If we go out clubbing together, she gets all sorts of attention. She WANTS the attention, but only if it's coming from guys that she finds attractive. So the low level approach she gets from some of the guys she doesn't find attractive is, guess what, harassment; but if it comes from a good looking bloke then all of a sudden, it's a compliment and so kind.

The other attention it grabs is that of other girls - who scowl at her for getting attention.


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It will become though, that males will be too scared to be in the company of females or even speak with them, for fear of any repercussions of any kind.


Well I'm married and if I wasn't already I'd not be lining up to subject myself to the dating game, that's for sure.
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And what do we get from the looney left? "Defund the police!" Brick Wall

No, let's give the police much better funding so that maybe we can bring back "the bobby on the beat." But maybe we could have male and female cops in pairs patrolling. How can reducing the effectiveness and presence of our police possibly make women safer?
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Btw, where do we get our moral values from? Anyone who says "our parents" can take themselves out the back and shoot themselves now.
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
Btw, where do we get our moral values from? Anyone who says "our parents" can take themselves out the back and shoot themselves now.


Is that because your dad was a catholic priest? Laughing Laughing Laughing
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But maybe we could have male and female cops in pairs patrolling.


You know what that leads too, don't you? Copulation to increase the population....
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok.

I sometimes like to wear a kilt.

If I go out in a kilt, even in Edinburgh the number of annoying, pissed up, shrieking women who think it is ok to run up to me in the street and lift it up will run well into double figures.
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Say away from girls. Girls are silly.

Before I was stalked by Mrs stinkwheel, I'd decided that game was so not worth the hassle. My brother was always super impressed by the way I could stone-cold blank a woman who was coming on to me. Unless a lass is interested in the same things as me, I have nothing to talk to them about.

Take it from me. A wank is cheaper, easier and -by virtue of experience- likely to be better.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:
Btw, where do we get our moral values from? Anyone who says "our parents" can take themselves out the back and shoot themselves now.


Is that because your dad was a catholic priest? Laughing Laughing Laughing


I was christened C of E. Now, I don't practice any religion, believe in God or miracles or any of that, but I understand that religion has given us in the West most of our values through parables, and we are steadily undermining them by telling ourselves these religions have never had any value.

But should we consider where you, the liberal, get your values from? How about this little gem:

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The fact that it's Halloween and Covid means probably no trick-or-treaters. Every cloud etc.

Damn. This year I am so well prepared too. I've made a hole in the side of a Roses tin for my penis, got my cam set up and made a Rolf Harris mask. I was so looking forward to the expressions of surprise when they dip in for a handful and I can say 'can you guess what it is yet...'.


Hmmm? Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get mine from my dad. He is Rolf Harris...
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