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Regarding the insistence that it’s not enough to lead by example, and men are expected to be actively anti with respect to abuse against females, I was trying to think of an instance where I coulda shoulda stepped up, but I couldn’t think of one, it’s probably quite rare and usually criminal.
I recall a neighbour frequently rowing terribly with his live-in girlfriend, but she gave as good as she got and was free to leave. It seemed to be just how they lived their shared lives. Next minute they’d be all lovey-dovey again.
I recall a bloke on a train trying to chat up a woman who was with another woman. He was a bit too persistent (I’m not sure he was all there), she was clearly not interested; polite but distant. The carriage was full and an intervention by any man on board would likely have kicked things off royally. (He was a big f@kker an’ all.) As it was, there was no harm done and the chap got off the train at the next stop. Besides, men chat up women, it’s not always welcome, sometimes it works sometimes not, but it’s how the human race goes on.
I recall getting off a train from London slightly pissed and walking home. A few streets away from the station the small group of commuters had dispersed and I was several yards behind a young woman whose stride was shorter than mine. I was aware that this might be an uncomfortable situation so I slowed down, I might have crossed the road too, but footsteps behind might still have worried her. Don’t know what I could do about it, I just wanted to get home.
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"Joanna? It's Melanie. Are you up for exploiting a murder? Great! Dust off the placards and I'll meet you there in an hour."
Pretty much everyone has come to the same conclusion, seemingly all at the same time: this was a pre-packaged and well prepared outrage event But like The Boy Who Cried Wolf people are starting to get fatigued by this style of protest.
Reclaim These Streets have raised over half a million. Why? To pay the fines of protest organisers. Oh yes, those rules to keep us all safe from Covid-19? "Fuck 'em! Take this money and fuck off."
The central message: we have the money, we have have the media, we're better than you.
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If they are not careful, women will find themselves being utterly and totally ignored by the majority of men for fear of being asccused of doing something untoward.
Then the only people who will talk to, look at or otherwise interact with them will be the arseholes. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Violence by women is grossly underreported. It's like rape stats in Saudi Arabia. If a man slaps his wife the police are quite likely to be involved. If a woman slaps her husband its very rare that the husband will call the cops. You also have to be very careful making accusations against random women such as colleagues because they can make a counter-accusation, and unlike yours, theirs WILL stick. You say she slapped you, well she says it was self defence while you were trying to rape her.
Another good example is drunk women sleeping with ugly men. Obviously this is not something I can relate to . But in any case when the woman wakes up, realises her friends disapprove of her one night guy she either (1) takes the shame of sleeping with someone ugly or (2) claims he raped her and gets tons of sympathy.
As for stopping rapists I recommend the Glock 19.
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | Regarding the insistence that it’s not enough to lead by example, and men are expected to be actively anti with respect to abuse against females, I was trying to think of an instance where I coulda shoulda stepped up, but I couldn’t think of one, it’s probably quite rare and usually criminal.
I recall a neighbour frequently rowing terribly with his live-in girlfriend, but she gave as good as she got and was free to leave. It seemed to be just how they lived their shared lives. Next minute they’d be all lovey-dovey again.
I recall a bloke on a train trying to chat up a woman who was with another woman. He was a bit too persistent (I’m not sure he was all there), she was clearly not interested; polite but distant. The carriage was full and an intervention by any man on board would likely have kicked things off royally. (He was a big f@kker an’ all.) As it was, there was no harm done and the chap got off the train at the next stop. Besides, men chat up women, it’s not always welcome, sometimes it works sometimes not, but it’s how the human race goes on.
I recall getting off a train from London slightly pissed and walking home. A few streets away from the station the small group of commuters had dispersed and I was several yards behind a young woman whose stride was shorter than mine. I was aware that this might be an uncomfortable situation so I slowed down, I might have crossed the road too, but footsteps behind might still have worried her. Don’t know what I could do about it, I just wanted to get home.
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I can give you an example. I saw a car drive past me at speed and stop at the end of the street at which point the guy started threatening his wife through his young daughter. I called the cops, gave them his details, reg etc. He left for a walk with them, cops were sat by his car waiting for him to come back about 3 minutes after I called. |
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I presume if some male today acted like we did back in my youth he would be in jail accused of just about every offence in the rapists handbook..
Discos were pick up points. You tried it on and 9 times out of 10 you'd get the 'fuck off' or a slap. The other time you might end up getting a grope on a sticky vinyl sofa being watched by 50 jealous puberatii. (Except in the Jungle in North Shields where you were more likely to be the raped one).
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This is to the OP, I'll deal with the rest of you later
Well done in making your daughter's fear all about you. You poor, hard done-to fellow
Instead of ranting on about how this reflects on men, stop and think about how you help her with her fear and help her adopt strategies to manage her own safety and give her reassurance. Her fear maybe disproportionate at the moment, but it is real.
Trust me, she's not safe, wherever you live. No woman is. Murder and serious assaults are perpetrated by men on women, rarely, but low level approaches and threats happen to women and girls EVERY SINGLE DAY.
She's on the verge of puberty, in a few short years she'll be walking home and will experience cat-calling, propositions, unsolicited comments and worse. She'll get this from schoolboys, male passers by, van drivers, builders, lorry drivers and maybe even taxi drivers. She'll mainly shrug these off but cumulatively this sort of harassment - because that's what it is - wears women down and becomes the norm. It's not fucking "banter" it is an assumption by men that women are fair targets for their leery frustrations and aggressions.
The outrage being expressed by women now is because the recent murder crystallises the worst end of the spectrum of male abuse, yet this sort of daily abuse is treated by the police as not worthy of intervention. Consequently when the worst kind of man continues unchallenged with this sort of behaviour and gets away with it, he may progress to worse crime, murder, rape, assault.
So, be a dad. Stop whining on about how men are demonized and teach your daughter strategies for keeping safe. Teach her that this men will behave this way towards her, that it's not acceptable. ____________________ Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're probably right |
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Quote: | Stop whining on about how men are demonized and teach your daughter strategies for keeping safe. |
My daughter is of the 'woke' generation and she would take issue with the second part this statement, because women shouldn't have to employ strategies for keeping safe. This is called victim-blaming.
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Tracey Suntan-King wrote: |
Instead of ranting on about how this reflects on men, stop and think about how you help her with her fear and help her adopt strategies to manage her own safety and give her reassurance. Her fear maybe disproportionate at the moment, but it is real.
Trust me, she's not safe, wherever you live. No woman is. Murder and serious assaults are perpetrated by men on women, rarely, but low level approaches and threats happen to women and girls EVERY SINGLE DAY.
She's on the verge of puberty, in a few short years she'll be walking home and will experience cat-calling, propositions, unsolicited comments and worse. She'll get this from schoolboys, male passers by, van drivers, builders, lorry drivers and maybe even taxi drivers. She'll mainly shrug these off but cumulatively this sort of harassment - because that's what it is - wears women down and becomes the norm. It's not fucking "banter" it is an assumption by men that women are fair targets for their leery frustrations and aggressions.
The outrage being expressed by women now is because the recent murder crystallises the worst end of the spectrum of male abuse, yet this sort of daily abuse is treated by the police as not worthy of intervention. Consequently when the worst kind of man continues unchallenged with this sort of behavior and gets away with it, he may progress to worse crime, murder, rape, assault.
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The above is experience by, I think, all females. It is a given and can't be explained to men that feeling of being a target, even if it is unintentional. How many of us blokes are guilty of giving unwanted attention? You may not have known it, but you have. I have, I must have, I'm a red blooded bloke. Are we all out to get at women? No! But I can understand why women would think that.
It will become though, that males will be too scared to be in the company of females or even speak with them, for fear of any repercussions of any kind. ____________________ Famous last words of Humpty Dumpty. " Stop pushing me "
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How many of us blokes are guilty of giving unwanted attention? You may not have known it, but you have. I have, I must have, I'm a red blooded bloke. |
Therein lies a problem. Describe 'unwanted'.
My wife has a mate that dresses outrageously, has fake cans and plumped up lips and wears lots of makeup. If we go out clubbing together, she gets all sorts of attention. She WANTS the attention, but only if it's coming from guys that she finds attractive. So the low level approach she gets from some of the guys she doesn't find attractive is, guess what, harassment; but if it comes from a good looking bloke then all of a sudden, it's a compliment and so kind.
The other attention it grabs is that of other girls - who scowl at her for getting attention.
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It will become though, that males will be too scared to be in the company of females or even speak with them, for fear of any repercussions of any kind. |
Well I'm married and if I wasn't already I'd not be lining up to subject myself to the dating game, that's for sure. |
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And what do we get from the looney left? "Defund the police!"
No, let's give the police much better funding so that maybe we can bring back "the bobby on the beat." But maybe we could have male and female cops in pairs patrolling. How can reducing the effectiveness and presence of our police possibly make women safer? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Btw, where do we get our moral values from? Anyone who says "our parents" can take themselves out the back and shoot themselves now. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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chickenstrip wrote: | Btw, where do we get our moral values from? Anyone who says "our parents" can take themselves out the back and shoot themselves now. |
Is that because your dad was a catholic priest? ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Quote: | But maybe we could have male and female cops in pairs patrolling. |
You know what that leads too, don't you? Copulation to increase the population.... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Ok.
I sometimes like to wear a kilt.
If I go out in a kilt, even in Edinburgh the number of annoying, pissed up, shrieking women who think it is ok to run up to me in the street and lift it up will run well into double figures. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Say away from girls. Girls are silly.
Before I was stalked by Mrs stinkwheel, I'd decided that game was so not worth the hassle. My brother was always super impressed by the way I could stone-cold blank a woman who was coming on to me. Unless a lass is interested in the same things as me, I have nothing to talk to them about.
Take it from me. A wank is cheaper, easier and -by virtue of experience- likely to be better. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I was christened C of E. Now, I don't practice any religion, believe in God or miracles or any of that, but I understand that religion has given us in the West most of our values through parables, and we are steadily undermining them by telling ourselves these religions have never had any value.
But should we consider where you, the liberal, get your values from? How about this little gem:
Diggs wrote: | The fact that it's Halloween and Covid means probably no trick-or-treaters. Every cloud etc.
Damn. This year I am so well prepared too. I've made a hole in the side of a Roses tin for my penis, got my cam set up and made a Rolf Harris mask. I was so looking forward to the expressions of surprise when they dip in for a handful and I can say 'can you guess what it is yet...'. |
Hmmm? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I get mine from my dad. He is Rolf Harris... ____________________ Now - Speed Triple, old ratty GS550, GSXR750M
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 41 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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