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H20MRV
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Born again Biker Reply with quote

Greetings all,

For the last few years i have had an itch to get a bike again, Not as my everyday transport, Just as a fun day, Sunday run, NC500 that sort of thing, Now i was proficient biker back in the day and had every superbike you could have ( i wish i had half of them now ) and could "Nip On" with the best of them!

Now some 20 years later i am thinking of one of these, Your thoughts would be welcome,

1/ Harley Davidson XR1200, A more basic experience, No Abs, No stability control, No traction control, but raw fun... And of course i have never had abs ect on a bike so i will not miss it, However i am not 19 anymore!!

2/ Triumph Tiger 1050 sport, Sensible, comfy and seems good from what i read / see

3/ BMW R1200rs, loads of them about with good accessories as std ( the se model anyway )

The Harley is the least sensible but it just attracts me even though i suspect it would be the worst bike for any kind of distance but fun in the short term,

Your thoughts?
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arry
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Thumbs Up

There's not much love for Harley's on here so don't expect many to go for 1) as their choice Laughing

I guess where you're starting from here is that you're sold on getting an motorcycle, but not entirely sure what exactly you're likely to enjoy from it, which is why you've got such different bikes in there.

The 1050 Tiger is an excellent all rounder and the engine is an absolute peach. Of all of them I'd say that's the most user-friendly returning biker suited machine.

The BM is a bit of a heavy old beast and although that's perfectly fine for most, starting out again and from a sportsbike background I'd say no for now. I have a boxer BM and whilst I love the engine characteristics, I don't enjoy its oil usage which is a problem with them that everyone just says 'just accept it' - personally, I'm struggling to take that attitude.

You might want to have a look at www.cycle-ergo.com and enter your dims and see how various bikes you've got in mind line out in terms of position. Clearly what you've picked out is a lot more upright than you'd have been used to in the past.

If you're thinking about the Tiger then I'd say there's the KTM 1190 as an alternative. More problematic, almost certainly, but more charismatic - if less well rounded. The nuttier version of sensible, perhaps.

Good luck.
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H20MRV
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Hi Thumbs Up

Hi, Thanks for the reply!

The Harley...What rings my bell about it is its very basic, A sunny Sunday morning run, Though I think in every other way probably quite useless, Its just something that fancy even though i know they are "Not the Best"

There's not much love for Harley's on here so don't expect many to go for 1) as their choice Laughing

I guess where you're starting from here is that you're sold on getting an motorcycle, but not entirely sure what exactly you're likely to enjoy from it, which is why you've got such different bikes in there.

I have some nice cars so the bike would not be a every day ( or every month machine ) but a toy, Something for Sunday runs, Going up north of Scotland ect, Whatever it is it has to be as safe as possible and fun, Hence the tiger, a lot of my mates have GS1200s and they are HUGE as you know and as i see somewhat pointless,

KTM... i a told they are very unreliable and that's why i have not looked at one..

The 1050 Tiger is an excellent all rounder and the engine is an absolute peach. Of all of them I'd say that's the most user-friendly returning biker suited machine.

The BM is a bit of a heavy old beast and although that's perfectly fine for most, starting out again and from a sportsbike background I'd say no for now. I have a boxer BM and whilst I love the engine characteristics, I don't enjoy its oil usage which is a problem with them that everyone just says 'just accept it' - personally, I'm struggling to take that attitude.

You might want to have a look at www.cycle-ergo.com and enter your dims and see how various bikes you've got in mind line out in terms of position. Clearly what you've picked out is a lot more upright than you'd have been used to in the past.

If you're thinking about the Tiger then I'd say there's the KTM 1190 as an alternative. More problematic, almost certainly, but more charismatic - if less well rounded. The nuttier version of sensible, perhaps.

Good luck.

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PostPosted: 21:18 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a Buell XB12 lightning? Ticks the raw, basic boxes..also look a lot of fun with a thumping Harley engine to boot?
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buell went bust because harley got pissed.with them for making their engine usable.

Go with the 1050. Great engine and triumph make good chassis as well.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

id say go for something you find comfortable. its a lot more important when you get older.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 16 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I talk with lots of born again & mid life crises. The Harley's are a popular choice they focus on but it soon wears off within a few months of actually buying one.

I dare say that if Harley received sales commision on all the R1200GS's & RT's they've sold they wouldn't be in such financial trouble all the time.

Why not buy 2nd hand & flip a few times till you find something you can live with???
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

JackButler wrote:
Why not buy 2nd hand & flip a few times till you find something you can live with???


This. Motorbikes are not cars! Riding one model for a year and then trying something new is perfectly acceptable Smile
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
JackButler wrote:
Why not buy 2nd hand & flip a few times till you find something you can live with???


This. Motorbikes are not cars! Riding one model for a year and then trying something new is perfectly acceptable Smile



I keep looking at the BMW BMW F800R SPORT but keep wondering if its a bit on the small side?
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small side how? Physical size or engine wise?

It's a bit of a boring choice engine wise IMO - the 1050 triple is a heck of a lot better than the parallel twin.
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H20MRV
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Small side how? Physical size or engine wise?

It's a bit of a boring choice engine wise IMO - the 1050 triple is a heck of a lot better than the parallel twin.


Yes, i think your right, it would be a bit "Dull" I don't expect to be going mad like when i was a young loon but i still want a bit of fun!!!
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly.

I mean - and I mean this totally with respect - you've missed 20 years worth of bike life and I'm assuming that you're no spring chicken any more, albeit not entirely ancient. You've clearly got the cash for a decent enough machine by virtue of what you're suggesting buying and the costs associated.

Life's too short for uninspiring motorcycles and in your case you've already missed out on a fair chunk of it, so even more so.
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PostPosted: 11:53 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry wrote:
Exactly.

I mean - and I mean this totally with respect - you've missed 20 years worth of bike life and I'm assuming that you're no spring chicken any more, albeit not entirely ancient. You've clearly got the cash for a decent enough machine by virtue of what you're suggesting buying and the costs associated.

Life's too short for uninspiring motorcycles and in your case you've already missed out on a fair chunk of it, so even more so.


I think you have hit it right on the head! I think i have found just the bike here in Edinburgh, Under 1000 miles so just run in! I and am off to see it when i get back onshore!
( the top box and panniers will have to go though ) !!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normal service resumed Laughing

Good luck. Look forward to pics / trips etc when you're up and running.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

In defence of small engines, a cheeky little whipper-snapper like my XSR700 does have some advantages; power-to-weight ratio is still a thing Wink Fair enough if I were to do triple digit mileage on a regular basis, 4 cylinders and >1 litre would be nice.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Easy-X wrote:
In defence of small engines, a cheeky little whipper-snapper like my XSR700 does have some advantages; power-to-weight ratio is still a thing Wink Fair enough if I were to do triple digit mileage on a regular basis, 4 cylinders and >1 litre would be nice.


Have nothing against the modern parallel twins and the XSR is a good example of a fairly lairy, interesting middleweight.

The BM is just.... dull.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

H20MRV wrote:
3/ BMW R1200rs, loads of them about with good accessories as std ( the se model anyway )
arry wrote:
The BM is a bit of a heavy old beast and although that's perfectly fine for most, starting out again and from a sportsbike background I'd say no for now. I have a boxer BM and whilst I love the engine characteristics, I don't enjoy its oil usage which is a problem with them that everyone just says 'just accept it' - personally, I'm struggling to take that attitude.

As you specifically mentioned the 1200RS I'm going to defend that..! I have one and love it to bits; if you're after a sports tourer as it sounds it's spot on. One of the benefits of the boxer engine is that the bike has a very low centre of gravity, and carries its weight really easily. AFAK the oil problem arry mentions does seem to be specific to the R Nine T (air-cooled) and my own RS (water-cooled) has never needed the oil topping up between services (and I've never heard of other owners having a problem with it)
That Triumph does look good though...
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 17 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

H2OMRV welcome to the forum. Any of the three of the bikes you posted would give you a thrill. If indeed you are going to consider Harley, the XR1200 is the one to look at, although you might experience "range anxiety". Doubt that bike goes much over 100 miles between visits to the petrol station. Does look like a proper "hooligan bike", however.
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