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Pete.
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PostPosted: 07:24 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Bike accidents on the rise? Reply with quote

I'm seeing lots of minor (and some major) accidents this year travelling in and out of London. Typically you don't see that many bikes out before Easter but this year they are out in wobbly hoardes. Some are GP wanna-loonies but many of thm are clearly new to commuting and visibly nervous (or oblivious). I guess the fear of using public transport is causing people who otherwise would not be on their bikes take to the road.

Must be passing two or three accidents a week involving bikes - last week I passed one accident jnvolving two bikes and a car. Yesterday I saw a bashed-up scooted up against a shop front in New Cross with the rider and driver having a barney in the rod.

I don't think it's going to be a good year in terms of accident statistics TBH.

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PostPosted: 08:06 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive seen it every spring around this time when the warm weather commuters get used to coming out of hibernation and the minicab drivers get adjusted to them being there again. Be interested to see the stats
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Local news (CZE) say the demand for scooters and small motorcycles skyrocketed during the pandemic, so if the same trend goes in the UK, it would only explain the increased number of such accidents. In order to avoid public transport people ride motorcycles and scooters.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last 12 months there has been a noticeable increase in small bikes on my little estate (I get the "Help can you fix......"). As mentioned they are avoiding the bus, the bus going through here now is almost always empty.

The nearest seller of Chinese 125's must be laughing all the way to the bank. Can't be a bad thing though, even if a tiny % of them like it and stick with it at least it's some new bikers.

Also it seems to have rejuvenated the used maket. I've sold 3 bikes during the various lockdowns. All 3 went for what I thought were piss take prices and shifted pretty quickly.
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how accurate these stats are:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/312594/motorcycle-and-car-registrations-in-the-united-kingdom/

Bear in mind these are new stats and say nothing about the second hand or import markets but bike sales definitely jumped in 2020.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also found people are becoming super aggressive nowadays. Seen quite a few road rage incidents already this year.

Perhaps patience is in limited supply? Thinking
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't use my bike all year round due to work.
2020 I had about 12 weeks in U.K. and just returned last week.
I know there's the 'thing' about getting back into the groove after a period of non use.

Well that has never ever been anything that has bothered me.
For daily commute weekend/weekday blasts my riding skills/roadcraft never dips.

I could only see a long time off affecting performance at competition level.

So people wobbling about on bikes probably aren't suited to that means of transport. If COVID didn't get them then the traffic or their incompetence will.
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't ridden my bike in over a year. Hedge incidents have drastically reduced.
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: I Must be lucky. Reply with quote

I've been driving for 30 years now and I drive all around london, Essex ,Sussex , Suffolk, Norfolk and Kent for my job and in that time I have actually seen one motorcycle accident and that was low speed at some traffic lights about 2 minutes from my front door. I know more people who have been hospitalised through pushbike injuries than motorcycle.
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was bad about this time last year, too. Lots of news reports about bike crashes resulting in death or serious injury.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
It was bad about this time last year, too. Lots of news reports about bike crashes resulting in death or serious injury.


I think it's usually the younger sports bike riders, not realising you can get a little rusty if you don't ride for a while.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I count my blessings that the longest I've been off the bike is three weeks during the first lockdown.

Even so, I've fitted a dashcam to the XSR 'cos of all the other c*nts on the road Smile
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:
I haven't ridden my bike in over a year. Hedge incidents have drastically reduced.


On the flip side, locals are having to pay gardeners to trim their hedges for them instead Razz
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Islander wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:
I haven't ridden my bike in over a year. Hedge incidents have drastically reduced.


On the flip side, locals are having to pay gardeners to trim their hedges for them instead Razz


Mine was a novel and effective method, but the expense account was crippling Laughing

https://i.postimg.cc/9fFktrRy/hedge-trimmer-4-zpsuufmerni.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 24 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

So you think of bike insurance as your Hedge Fund?

Shite.... is that my bus?
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 31 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seen no accidents this week (so far) but there are just loads and loads of new bikers on the road. Death-grippers and rev monsters and of course the shakey-heads. They always make me laugh when I see them not getting though a gap with 6 inches spare then giving the driver 'the look' and shaking their heads as if they have some kind of right to expect the traffic to part for them like the sea did for Moses.

I wonder how many are going to get caught out without commuting/pillion insurance when the cops start setting up their usual stops on the London commute after Easter? Could end up being an expensive option for some.
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 31 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
I see them not getting though a gap with 6 inches spare then giving the driver 'the look' and shaking their heads as if they have some kind of right to expect the traffic to part for them like the sea did for Moses.

I wonder how many are going to get caught out without commuting/pillion insurance when the cops start setting up their usual stops on the London commute after Easter? Could end up being an expensive option for some.


I don't know about the commuters, but I think the cops are going to have a field day with the Deliveroo/Ubereats lot. I suspect most of them don't have business/courier insurance.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 31 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

chickenstrip wrote:


Mine was a novel and effective method, but the expense account was crippling Laughing

https://i.postimg.cc/9fFktrRy/hedge-trimmer-4-zpsuufmerni.jpg


This looks recent...
You can't make a habit of doing this, you know. Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 31 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bhud wrote:
chickenstrip wrote:


Mine was a novel and effective method, but the expense account was crippling Laughing

https://i.postimg.cc/9fFktrRy/hedge-trimmer-4-zpsuufmerni.jpg


This looks recent...
You can't make a habit of doing this, you know. Laughing


Recent...depends what you mean. That was the last one, in May 2015. On the wagon now - I haven't even looked wistfully at a hedge in passing since Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 31 Mar 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've noticed a huge pick up in bikes over the last fortnight or so, far more dramatic than the usual spring uplift in numbers.

Not noticed many more crashes yet, but I am getting seriously pissed off already at some of the 10mph wobblers oblivious to everybody behind them. Genuinely can add 15 minutes to my commute if there is no way past.

Not looking forward to commuting this summer! I find the winter commute much more enjoyable, getting to the traffic lights and finding 20 bikes rammed into a tiny space is not fun.

It's turned me into a grumpy git Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 01 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of folk are WFH more and the commute has become twice a fortnight. Public transport is expensive and gives you death.
Pick up a bike for 1/4 a season ticket and sell the second car as it costs a bomb and isn't getting the mileage.

Mixed views. On the one, its surely a good thing to get numbers into bikes (provides buyers + sellers of bikes, parts and services. Maybe puts bikes into brains of decision makers.....not always a good thing).
On the other hand, anything that challenges the status quo will be met with lobbying, bad press and increased costs (tax) / pressure; more grief and fewer concessions basically.

But bikes are still what, 1%. We're a long way off being Vietnam.
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 01 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pigeon wrote:


Maybe puts bikes into brains of decision makers.....never a good thing


FTFY.
Bikes will never be accepted by the public at large. In this day and age of not being allowed to let anyone ever die of anything, they'll probably end up being targeted more and more. The trend is not to allow people choices that may be deemed even slightly unsafe. The only thing that has kept us going this long is capitalism, i.e. trade and employment, but that's seen as the enemy now, and the bike trade was never very lucrative for governments anyway. Every day we don't see the beginning of a campaign to get bikes completely banned is a bonus. Best to just stay under the radar, but that goes against much of the spirit of the whole thing for many, especially the young.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the last 3 days' grid-locked traffic is a sign of things to come I predict a LOT more bikes on the commute. It's been truly horrendous and I would not have lied to be in the van this past week.
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 02 Apr 2021    Post subject: Reply with quote

MCN wrote:
So you think of bike insurance as your Hedge Fund?


i tend to keep them sorts of matters privet, mate
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