Direct access without training?

[Jimbo12345]

Hi all!

New to the forum, and I have a strange one for you all!

I’ve been riding motorcycles since I was 6 years of age, starting off on trials and motocross bikes, riding these from 6-16 years of age.

At age 16 i completed CBT and did a year on 50cc moped, then did a another year on an NSR125. I also learnt to drive during this year, and ended up going to university at 18, meaning I couldn’t afford to keep running a bike and car.

I’m 29 now and haven’t ridden on the road since, but actually done about 7000 miles of track riding over the past 10 years, on Yamaha R6 and GSXR600.

Therefore my question is, is it possible for me to book my module 1 and 2 tests, have my bike transported to the test centre, and sit the tests without going through a training provider?

I could do the module 1 manoeuvres with my eyes closed and know the roads around my test centre like the back of my hand.

My thoughts are, even if I was to fail mod 2 a couple of times (personally I don’t think I would), this would still save considerable time and money over a direct access course.

Thanks in advance!

Jimbo

[ThatDippyTwat]

Possible? Yes, use the .gov website.
Advisable? No. Even without the insurance issues (this will get asked about if you're not with a training school). Track riding is not anything akin to road riding.

I passed in 95 (CBT+test, no MOD1/2 or theory). Banned in 99. Retaking my test without training would have been a definite no-no, I had some bad habits to get rid of that would have been an instant fail. You may be able to ride a bike, but you probably don't know how to pass the test as it's designed. Go a local instructor, tell them what you've told us and see what they say. Hell, they'll probably be happy they don't have to teach you how to ride a bike, just how to pass the test, what examiners are looking for etc.
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[KiwiBob]

If you have insurance and a suitable bike then there would be no problem in trying.

Why not contact a local training centre and have a talk .. They charge around £30/hr, so you could have a session and use their bike for the test.

Don't forget you will need a current CBT certificate and to have passed the theory test!

[arry]

Your biggest issue is going to be obtaining insurance whilst not being a full licence holder, for a bike that meets the criteria of the A Licence for testing purposes.

Once you've sorted that, then you've got the issue of getting the bike there to the test centre legally - so if you don't own a van / have a mate with a full licence and insurance to ride other bikes that can pillion you there, then you've got another cost on top.

Pro Tip - there's no regulation that says you HAVE to do your CBT on a 125; if you already have a 600, you can get that to the test centre legally and do your CBT on it, too.

The other option is to hit up one of the training centres for your CBT, and just ask them outright if they'll be willing to do a hire only / minimal intervention solution for you to use their bike for the tests.

So yes, possible you could buy a suitable bike, arrive for the CBT legally and do both tests in the same manner whilst insured properly. In reality? Unlikely, I'd say. But let us know how you get on

[ThatDippyTwat]

[KiwiBob]

[Keithy]

You clan easily miss things like shoulder checks before pulling off, catching the cones of the ‘garage’ when pushing the bike, not knowing how to gauge your speed for the speed trap or get a question you suddenly go blank on.

Some coaching and pointers will really help.

[ThatDippyTwat]

[arry]

[spongefinger]

I think it may be worth doing a session at a training school
Just to go through tips for mod 1 and iron out bad habits for mod 2. My training school does four hours for £100 so if you found a school near you you could do a couple of hours tweaking mod 1 and couple of hours road riding monitored by trainer so he can give you feedback. Although this would add to cost doing the mods over and over will add up and it's not just the cost but the time and the agro of trying to keep securing test slots.

[Copycat73]

seen a few of these posts .. always the same problem .. insurance.. you can not get it on a bike over 125 without a licence..

If you can prove me wrong then do so and report back .. there will be some very interested to read who and how it is to be done..
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[Copycat73]

then i await his report back
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[pinkyfloyd]

There is no issue with doing it yourself but getting the bike too and from legally and the cost of insurance tends to negate the point of doing it yourself. Often it does not cost much more to do it with a school who will teach you how to get through it.
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