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I remember one of the ratbike lads I know making what he referred to as a "scatoiler" using the ball valve out of a hamster drinking bottle on the basis it only released oil when it was bouncing about. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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Tutoro oilers I fitted a good few and used them easier to fill than Scottoiler but in my view a bit less good and struggle in sub-zero temperatures
Both work very well ____________________ Dave
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buddy wrote: | Its on carbs, it runs like an old camel for the first few minutes. The main gripe is the way to fill it up. Some crap little bung thing (which is old, malformed and fucked) and a syringe.
The whole unit has to be in a certian orientation. Its just overcomplicated. My idea is much simpler, a nice little stainless valve from swagelock and a little tank with a lid. |
I highly doubt that the vacuum from the scottoiler is going to cause noticeable running issues, but you could rule out an air leak on the vaccum for piece of mind: (1) push the black vaccum pipe feeding from the carb's into the Socttoiler body as much as possible to eliminate the possibility that it either wasn't fitted tight enough or have vibrated loose (it is, in my view, a bit of a poor design and hard to get in really tight), and (2) check the scottoiler website and make sure you have the right spignot fitted to your carbs (they have set-up guides for most bikes via their website).
Secondly would be to run the bike with it disconnected and compare the warm up and low running speed efficiency from cold (preferably on a different day to the above test).
Also taking some carb cleaner with you on a ride and spraying that on the rubbers that connect between the head and carbs to ensure you don't have an air leak (split rubbers, or a loose clamp).
Beyond that I'd slowly start to dig into the smaller jobs (smaller than carbs) before thinking you've got to invest in a clean or balance: idle speed, clutch adjustment etc.
In terms of the Scottoiler its best placed at an angle, but that depends on how much space you've got under the seat. You could, of course, just attach it to the frame or some part of the outside of the bike; or you could invest more money and buy a "Magnum HCR (sold via their website)" that moves the unit to fit behind the number plate (but requires drilling holes etc) for ease of install and extra capacity.
In either case it shouldn't be dumping large amount of lube out at idle, and I wouldn't really be leaving it to idle for more time than it takes to put the helmet and gloves on (normally, so long as its not majorly old?). Try adjusting it half-way and then check it after a week of riding (eventually it will dry out if set too low).
You should have one of these to fill the unit as it connects to the bottle and into the tube, but indeed it can be fiddly and some can get spilt. Not annoyingly so, though.
Scottoiler recommend that you replace the plug after removing it so perhaps its time for a new one. I do agree that even from new getting this tight is interesting.
But, aye, I'd go with your new to you bike has running issues that need ironing out. Disconnecting the Scottoiler and cable tieing to frame is the fastest way for now to see how much of an effect its having.. but again I doubt very little. ____________________ The do it all, T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶r̶o̶k̶e̶n̶ ̶o̶n̶e̶,̶ ̶T̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶i̶g̶ ̶l̶u̶m̶p̶,̶ ̶C̶h̶o̶n̶g̶ ̶N̶o̶o̶d̶l̶e̶ |
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For what it's worth, Yes, your idea would probably work if you cam fabricate an appropriate valve. As would a valve that opens when you sit on the saddle.
One thing I've seen done a few times is for someone to drill and tap the inspection "plug" on the alternator cover (the one you put a socket through to turn the crank), fit a spigot and run a hose from there to the chain. A small amount of engine oil us generally "breathed" out through this hole, enough to lube the chain. If it's too much you can put one of those screw-on hose clamps to reduce the flow. It's seldom wrong to have extra crankcase breathing anyway. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Thanks for your replies lads ____________________ When this baby hits 88 miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious shit. |
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That is not a Scottoiler.
And you are missing the point.
The automation of lubricating a chain removed some of the maintenance requirements.
(Though not entirely maintenance free.)
Having to lubricate a chain 'properly' is a task.
It has to be lubed every fill up of the fuel tank. 150-200 miles. More of a PIA if touring too.
Hassle if you don't have a spot to roll the bike around to clean the chain and coat with lube.
Auto oilers remove this regular hassle. ____________________ Disclaimer: The comments above may be predicted text and not necessarily the opinion of MCN. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 3 years, 3 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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