I think SV650s are better than GSXR400s

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[xX-Alex-Xx]

It's this a weird way of coming out?
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I hate Suzukis in general and would never own either but I think SV650s are better than GSXR400s

[pepperami]

GSXR 400 = little pocket rocket.
SV650 = workhorse.

I’d guess that parts for the SV650 might be less difficult to obtain??
Why a GSXR 400? Why not just get a GSXR 750/1000 ?
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[Robby]

I had to check the date to make sure this wasn't a thread from 20 years ago.

SV650 is a hateful thing to ride. GSXR400 is unlikely to start in the first place.

[Easy-X]

IIRC my review of the SV650 was "perfectly adequate"
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[MarJay]

SV650 with sorted suspension is a weapon. No matter what year, shape or what have you.

A GSXR400 of any vintage will now be old enough to have f*cked suspension, but sought after enough to cost more than an SV650. Also in terms of tune-ability, a GSXR400 will be pretty much at it's limit, whereas the SV has mucho potential with big bore kits and the like. There are rumours it was designed to be an 800 or 900 from the outset.

So for performance per £ SV650 every day of the week. If I wanted to go racing, I'd definitely be looking at minitwins. If I wanted a troll trackbike to show up the S1000RRs and the like, it'd be an SV650. I'd spend £1500 on an OK ish one, 500 on a shock and fork bits and have a larf.
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[chickenstrip]

SVs are ok. They just need more power. And a suspension upgrade. And a more comfortable seat. And a better finish. Beginners bike and/or cheap hack territory as they stand.
My perception* (since I haven't ridden any of the small rev bombs) is that bikes like the GSXR400 for me are just an inadequate way of finding 2T-type thrills. They rev, sure, but when you wind that throttle on, does anything much happen?

*i.e. I accept that I could be wrong.
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[Kentol750]

Sv650 post 2016 or sv650s?
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[stinkwheel]

Why not compare budget sports commuter with budget sports commuter?

I think the GPZ500 was a better bike than the SV650...
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[wr6133]

If forced the GSXR, assuming like for like condition it'll be the most fun. Price of what I'd consider good condition though, get a 600 SRAD for less. Equally by the time you tune the motor and sort out the springs at each end of an SV you may as well have just bought something better initially.

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[stinkwheel]

[MarJay]

[stinkwheel]

[sickpup]

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[Bhud]

The wider the tyre, the greater the lean angle required to get around the same corner.

On the road, you don't want to be at the maximum lean angle. It's less comfortable to ride when leaned right over, and for very good reason. If you're too leaned over when riding on the road, you don't have much margin for error. Taking a left-hand bend, for example, with limited forward visibility because of a tall hedge or line of trees, you need that margin, in case someone is in your path of travel and you need to change your line. So, instinctively, it should feel easier to hustle a narrow-tyred GPZ500 around that corner at 60mph than an Ego Hoss.

Our personal sense of exceptionalism aside, and whether we each individually have got over our Batman and Superman conditioning yet, we are, statistically, very likely to be average road riders, regardless of what we ride. I know that nobody wants to hear it, and a Yamaha 125 these days is styled to look almost exactly like an R1, but in reality, most of us fall within the normal distribution and are around the mean level in ability.

Therefore, all other things being equal, there are many situations in which a GPZ500 or an ER5 (which also has good handling, although not as good) can easily keep up with or even get there (wherever "there" is) quicker than riders on much more powerful bikes.

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Thread appears to have been inspired by a GSXR-400 fan accusing Meef of willy waving on the 1000s vs. 600s thread.

[stinkwheel]

[MarJay]

Back in the day my best mate had a later shape GPZ500S. I had an SV650SK2. The SV650 blew it away.
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