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It's an OAT which isn't suitable. |
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sickpup wrote: | virus wrote: | If you are that worried about the specific certifications and recommended ratings as supplied by honda, have you not thought of just buying some from your local honda dealer? |
Tried that with bevel box oil a few years back and they couldn't supply. The Bluecol I previously mentioned fits the ratings but I can only get through mail order at half the price of the Honda coolant. |
my apologies, I made the foolish mistake of thinking a dealership wasnt just out to sell brand new bikes on HP..
Have you tried opie oils? they seem to have a good rep on the forum from back in the day and also carry a range of fluids other than oil. ____________________ own: 81 xs1100g...
owned: 85 rat CG (sold), 91 GS500e (stolen), 84 gsx400f (scrapped), 81 z250 (siezed, siezed, scrapped), 83 cb250rs (sold), 84 gpz750r ratfighter (killed) 84gpz400 (sold), '80 cb650 ratfighter (wrote off) 95gsx6/12f ratfighter (killed) 91 xj900 (sold)
stinkwheel Well I just had my hands up a pigs fanny. Which makes your concerns pale into insignificance. |
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Respectfully, I think you are overthinking this. I've used Prestone 60/40 mix in all my water cooled bikes, including two Hondas that had 105,680 and 117,927 miles on the clocks when sold. No problem with seals, water pump, head gasket or otherwise. Surely if coolant formulation was a critical requirement to the point of part failure, bikes would be dropping like flies all over the world from the wrong coolant. For my money, a reputable coolant formulated for aluminum radiators, and changed at regular intervals, is sufficient. ____________________ History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of men - BOC |
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jeffyjeff wrote: | Respectfully, I think you are overthinking this. I've used Prestone 60/40 mix in all my water cooled bikes, including two Hondas that had 105,680 and 117,927 miles on the clocks when sold. No problem with seals, water pump, head gasket or otherwise. Surely if coolant formulation was a critical requirement to the point of part failure, bikes would be dropping like flies all over the world from the wrong coolant. For my money, a reputable coolant formulated for aluminum radiators, and changed at regular intervals, is sufficient. |
All fair comments but I think you're wrong.
I have run NTV600/650's, BROS 400/650's for years without any coolant system problems apart from the radiators rotting away due to age. These often exceeded 250k before they were scrapped.
I have one NT650 Deauville with only 70k on it that has a lunched engine due to a coolant leak between the cylinders that started un-noticed on the M4 and warped the heads.
My daily use NT700 is down at the moment due to a leak between the cylinders.
As all these bikes use pretty much the same engines and use the same seals something has changed and I can only put it down to the coolant.
It may be more difficult to get hold of IAT non-silicate coolant but it doesn't actually cost anymore , it may actually work out cheaper so to my mind it's worth doing the right way.
Having a look at the Smith and Allan site they have a copy of the BS6580 standard here which doesn't mention an OAT inhibitor package but the Cooltech 53 Coolant they sell here which meets BS6580 does contain an OAT inhibitior so this is all very contradictory and confusing. I just don't know enough about coolant types and I'm having trouble trying to find the information.
I'm wondering if the inhibitor package added to coolant sits outside of the standard so the standard applies to the base coolant type such as EG or MEG etc. and then the inhibitor added afterwards doesn't affect the standard?
Yes that's the stuff. As far as I can tell it meets all the requirements with nothing extra added such as an OAT inhibitor package. If you can see something I can't and I'm wrong please let me know before I buy a bulk load of it.
If you really want to be certain of having the right stuff have a look at Honda type 2 coolant. Its a lot more expensive £20-£30 delivered for 5 litres ready mixed but a Honda dealer will be able to confirm it is correct. |
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That's a different spec coolant. That's the universal not the Blue which was the type you first linked.
Worth having anyway as it can be used to top up any kind of coolant. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 348 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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