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Posted: 16:26 - 18 May 2021 Post subject: Network Access Storage drive login issues |
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For many years I've run a NAS drive on my home network with all my data on; I set it up years ago and it's basically configured as drive P:, so I can seamlessly access it from any computer on the network. It just... works.
However I've increasingly been having problems accessing it from my laptop... it typically hunts for ages and comes up with an error message - often it's a Windows Security message asking for a username and password (it's definitely set up without them); and FWIW anything I then enter generates "user name or password is incorrect".
Usually I just try rebooting my laptop and/or NAS and/or router, and usually some combo of these gets things working again (I've never been able to nail it down to a specific device though). It's been getting worse though - today, it just won't play ball at all. However, I've just got my spare laptop out, and that has connected to drive P: no trouble at all.
It's the intermittent nature of the problem which really has me foxed. Any ideas?
EDIT: - another error message which looks rather more specific (but other giving a hint why rebooting my kit sometimes works, still not helping me):
"An error occurred while reconnecting P: to \\COBRA\Data Microsoft Windows Network. Multiple connections to a server or shared resource by the same user, using more than one user name, are not allowed. Disconnect all previous connections to the server or shared resource and try again.
This connection has not been restored."
*Equipment is:
Netgear ReadyNas Duo NAS
VirginMedia Hub 3.0 modem/router
TP-Link SG1008 switch
Lenovo X260 laptop
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Posted: 18:17 - 18 May 2021 Post subject: |
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I had trouble connecting to my elderly NAS drive recently and it's because the software had stopped using the legacy connection protocal by default.
Admittedly this was in Linux so it was the samba protocals which wont be your problem but I wonder if something similar could be going on? Mine could see the drive and kept asking me for login credentials but then failed to connect.
Happily, being linux, I only had to change one digit in a text file to make it work again.
I wonder if something similar has happened with windows? I mean, windows 10 installed a print driver update the other week that blue-screened every PC in my work if you tried to print a .pdf document on our particular brand of printer. The fix was not exactly elegant either, more of a dirty workaround -the implication from MS being we should have bought a different brand of printer. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Posted: 14:42 - 19 May 2021 Post subject: |
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Is there any way round that without having to buy a new NAS drive though?
I'm sure if it's on site, you could deal with any security issues you have at router level.
If you're at all worried about some hacker looking at your holiday photos from 12 years ago that is. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Thanks a lot for the replies.
So my ageing NAS does indeed run Samba apparently; all this is a bit over my head though as I'd never even heard of SMB until today. I found a button in the NAS settings where I can simply turn SMB on or off; that's all there is: I assume it must be v1.0 in the absence of any other info, and because it's old. It can't be upgraded anyway; I'm on the latest (pretty old) firmware.
I've also been into my Windows 10 settings where I've found the following:
https://i.imgur.com/qjeXdsV.jpg
- so that sounds OK doesn't it, providing I'm happy running dodgy SMB v1?
@Easy-X: Regarding the "multiple connections" thing this is my credentials manager page - how do I delete the cached credentials?
https://i.imgur.com/ZszaeOl.jpg
Finally, here's the result of NET USE:
It just shoes the two shared folders I have configured, as expected (except today they show "Disconnected" as I can't connect to them):
https://i.imgur.com/yBGx6q3.jpg
Does any of this help to diagnose what's wrong? ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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Have you checked the drive itself is both on and working?
Can you plug one of the laptops directly into it? I know mine will mount as an external HDD as well as a NAS if you plug into it. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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UncleBFester wrote: | Look for the NAS name or IP and delete it and saved creds. |
Nothing there - had already done that stage at my last post
UncleBFester wrote: | scroll down to SMB and make sure SMB1.0CIFS client is ticked. |
Yes, already ticked (in fact it's never not been ticked AFAIK - see screengrab in my last post)
UncleBFester wrote: | net use /del * to remove drives. |
Now - that worked, whereas for some reason trying to delete the individual maps (as in my last screen grab) did not. Both my disconnected M: and P: drives have now gone...
UncleBFester wrote: | net use H: \\IPaddress\sharename /persistent:yes |
And that worked too - I just reinstated M: and P: that way, and instantly I regained access to those drives again via Windows, so great. Time will tell whether they stick this time; but meanwhile, thanks a lot! ____________________ KC100->CB100N->CB250RS--------->DL650AL2->R1200RS->R1250RS |
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The unmapping of drives when it's old stuff always seems to work better as an MS-DOS command than it does via the GUI.
if you were really that arsed you could save those two commands in a .bat file and run them as you log on. Or just save them in a .bat file that you run if / when you get issues.
I had an ancient Buffalo Terastation that was a constant pain for this, it got sold on ebay and replaced by a new Netgear one which dooesn't give me any bother at all.
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Oh yeah, deleting the drive letters Sorry I missed that! ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Nice one - keeps a bit of old hardware in use for a bit longer ____________________ Module 1 and 2 passed - October 2014. Happy owner of a 2017 Z1000SX, ex owner of a YBR125 / CB500 / VFR800. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 252 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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