Garage Security, Yes or No?

[Shaft]

I haven't much of any value in my garage (although I wouldn't be too chuffed if somebody half inched my fishing gear) but now I have a bike in there, I'm thinking about security.

A previous tenant fitted one of these............

https://i.imgur.com/E7W4OAa.jpg

......... but I don't have a lock for it.

I know that if some thieving little scrote wants to get in there, they will, but before I go and shell out on a new padlock, I was wondering what the BCF massive think about these things.

Mine is in a block of garages and you can tell the people who value the contents, because the doors are festooned with locking devices, most of which would probably be pretty ineffectual to the determined crim.

Fortunately, this thing I have is clearly used, so it isn't going to look as though I have rushed out and bought it, to protect something new and exciting in the garage, but at the same time, it does signal that I would rather not anyone went in there.

So what does BCF think, worthwhile deterrent, or red flag for something worth nicking?
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[mentalboy]

I'd be looking at it from a slightly different perspective.

With a lock on your device, how secure would that make your unit in comparison to the rest of the area/block?

Zero security might indicate little concern from an owners viewpoint but from a thieving scrote's view it's the easiest to access and may yield results.
The most secured places might well yield the best haul so would appear a better option for a well equipped scrote.

If yours sits comfortably between those two ranges it proves more of a challenge to the opportunist and less appealing to the well prepared. HOWEVER, with the limited experience I've had with public/council lock ups, scrotes tend to observe stuff coming and going and base their choices accordingly as to what they see going in and out, any old fool can cut up the door if the lock is too challenging...
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[Polarbear]

I'd certainly fit it. With a decent lock it should be a reasonably secure setup.

Those up and over doors are sh1t from whatever security access you look at it though. Even the one on the garage attached to our house I only feel happy(ier) with a car parked against it and thats with a myriad of internal bolts.
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[pepperami]

Big shiny lock indicates to scum-bags that there’s something worth stealing in there, just saying.
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[Ste]

When thieves break into garages I'm pretty certain they already know exactly what is in there that they're wanting to steal.

A big lock says that there's something in there which is of value to the owner but for scummy thieving pieces of shit that doesn't mean much, they're going to go for the garage that they know has got nice push bikes or a nice motorbike in it.

The garages OP mentions that have doors festooned with locking devices which would probably be pretty ineffectual to the determined crim haven't been broken into so having a big fuck off garage defender isn't going to be a red flag that makes people want to break in.

A big fuck off garage defender will either need pulling out of the ground or chopping up with an angle grinder. They could make a shit load of noise breaking into your garage to steal your bike or they could steal a bike elsewhere that doesn't have a garage defender in the way.

So I say it's a completely worthwhile deterrent.

[stinkwheel]

It'll be fine providing you don't have a normal up and over garage door that you can bend the corners of in with your bare hands.
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[Polo]

And if you have an old 70's style door then expect a corner to be peeled back should they want to get in and then them take whatever fits out the hole.

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[Easy-X]

Bit cruel to keep a dog locked up in a garage
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[ThunderGuts]

Vaguely on topic; what's a more secure option for a garage door?
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Machine gun nest and searchlights.
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[ZebraDriver]

Have a look on ebay for "Enfield Garage Door Bolts". They wind out about two inches and can be used for the corners of up and over doors. But no matter what you fit there will always be some way of defeating it, except for the machine gun nest etc

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[Diggs]

My up and overs can be bumped out of their roller-tracks just by leaning hard on them, which makes them useless in security terms.

What about installing a 1.0m high horizontal bar inside the door using scaffold pole so that anyone wanting to pinch your bike has to either cut the pole with a grinder, cut whatever you choose to lock it with, or lift the bike over. Someone I know did this and the only bother he ever had was when he lost the key and had to grind through it himself. Just a thought...
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[ThunderGuts]

A guardsman / barrier approach is good for preventing a bike being nicked, but anything more portable it's not going to help. I like the idea of MGs and searchlights . . . although it'll blend in around here
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[Robby]

Your primary threats are opportunistic thieves and general scum who would nick (or vandalize) any bike they can. Having a garage defender is a good defence there.

If you were trying to protect against a more targeted attack - stolen to order sort of thing - then you would also consider a better garage door, and more locks. This fairly quickly become self-defeating. Locks are expensive, and removing them all just to take the bike for a ride is self-defeating.

A tracker is a good call. If the scrotes do manage to get your bike, chances are they will leave it somewhere localish for a few days before moving it on. They did with mine. Tracker helps you get it back.

There is no such thing as perfect security, and the security benefits quickly go into diminishing returns the more you spend on it.

My personal preference - a decent lock on the door, a disc lock on the bike, tracker, and CCTV. CCTV (nest etc) only works if you have power and internet in the garage. Any significant spend beyond that is worth keeping back to pay the insurance excess.

[DJS]

I have to say that I love the idea of one of these:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bisley-Security-Burglars-Intruders-Galvanized/dp/B0049ACMC6

It surely would cause a brown trouser moment, if not a full blown heart attack, in a thieving scrote.

[Ayrton]

Don't overlock the garage door lock itself. I used to open mine with a paperclip and something to turn the keyway when I lost the key and that was on a brand new garage. Thank god thieves don't seem to realise lockpicking is a thing anymore.

Those guardsman barriers look good, but I've seen videos of thieves bending up the corner of a door and sliding the bike out on it's side, so I think they would just do the same with that. It could really do with another bar lower down.

[JackButler]

I really cannot understand exactly what is inside some of you lots heads.

The level of security required is dependant on the level of the threat that exists.

£1 padlocks on a shed are OK where I live, but if you live in a 3rd floor bedsit on a sink estate in Hackney, then it ain't going to secure your imaginary Panigale in the community car park is it?

If you're intellect struggles to quantify the threat level, then get some respected advice. I'd be equally as happy asking my local Police crime prevention officer as I would inviting one of the local scrotes around to show me how they'd do it, & I have done both.
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