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MarJay But it's British!
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Posted: 10:56 - 08 Jun 2021 Post subject: |
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Yes, there are big differences. My evaluation of their quality goes as follows (worst to best but not necessarily in price order):
Hagon and YSS Maxton and Hyperpro Nitron, Ohlins and Ktech
The thing is, Nitron are a LOT cheaper than Ohlins etc, and are made in the UK to your specification. I had the basic Nitron on my VFR800 and it was the best money I've ever spent on bike parts. It's that bloody good. I had to tweak the damping and set the preload to suit me, but it didn't take a lot of effort and it totally transformed the ride.
I'd always recommend Nitron over anything else. It might be £100 more expensive than a YSS but you'll know where that £100 went IMO. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 17:11 - 08 Jun 2021 Post subject: |
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Had a Hagon shock on my old Fazer 600, was reasonable enough.
Got a Nitron (basic 1-way) on my new FZ6, plus some Racetech Gold Emulators in the forks. Very good, definitely better than the Hagon - but yeah a bit more moneys. ____________________ Beginner Biker Adventures Blog
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Posted: 22:23 - 08 Jun 2021 Post subject: |
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From what I've read, YSS is basically OE spec. So if you just want to replace a worn out shock it's OK but it's not an upgrade.
I'd be looking at Nitron if I wanted a decent upgrade. ____________________ Suzuki Bandit 1250
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SirFallalot Trackday Trickster
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Posted: 03:04 - 09 Jun 2021 Post subject: |
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I've recently replaced some shot stock shocks on my CB750.
First tried some used but working non adjustable Hagons I got for free, too fecking hard spring.
YSS offers 3 products, the low range (£1xx) is actively discouraged by Brook's, middle with rebound adjust (£380), and high with additional compression adjust and piggyback (£610).
For my use case I went for the middle range, bike feels planted but weirdly comfy/cushy at the same time, even a new pillion of mine noticed the change from 1 week to today lol.
If I had gone for the upper range, I'd have picked the UK made Nitron's instead for £90 more even without having any previous experience. Custom made to your weight and use case, 5 years warranty (inspires confidence right), plus, made in the UK! ____________________
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Bru Trackday Trickster
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Bru wrote: |
I have bought a Nitron (in preference to Hagon) rear shock because my head was turned by Nitron's 'compression/rebound damping control', which the Hagon unit did not offer at the time (for similar money). |
That surprises me. I always considered Hagon as an ok option if you were on a restricted budget but really had to have a new shock, as I once had to when money was tight. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Bru Trackday Trickster
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I've always thought that suspension is an area where the bike manufacturers have cut corners to keep costs down, especially with the introduction of new models, although often they get an upgrade on following models. I think it's totally the wrong place to do it, if do it they must. I'd much rather they cut on electronic accessories than the basic essentials.
When you've had a bike with really top notch suspension, you wonder how you ever managed without it. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 17:13 - 22 Jun 2021 Post subject: |
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I've put Hagon shocks on a couple of bikes (twin shocks on the MZ, mono on the VFR750), best I can say is they were alright. The twin shocks started rusting seemingly in days. The mono was just grand when I first had it, but started leaking after a couple of years, so I got it rebuilt (by Hagon, for my weight), and it just never seemed quite right since it went back on, just felt a bit....dead? Hard to describe but different certainly, given that it was the same shock.
Wouldn't buy another Hagon. I'm probably going to get a fresh shock for the VFR800, and I'll go with Nitron, I'll pay the extra given that no-one seems to have a bad word to say about them. ____________________ Current - '94 VFR750FR, '00 VFR800FI Previous - '10 Street Triple R, '92 MZ ETZ301, '05 TTR250, NSR125R, KMX125, "Honda" Win (chinese copy of an old Honda design with a C90 engine)
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stevo123 Nitrous Nuisance
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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Posted: 11:02 - 24 Jun 2021 Post subject: |
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White Power (WP) was another higher end of mid-tier make of shock. Not sure if they're still on the go. They were the go-to remote adjustable preload shock when VFR800s came out. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 306 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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