Anti-corrosion

[Easy-X]

Ah, cat among the pigeons, toys thrown from prams, etc. our favourite RE worrier, Stuart Fillingham:

THE BEST corrosion protection for your motorcycle? NEW KID ON THE BLOCK!

tl;dr bin your ACF50 and use Jenolite Wax Oil Spray.

I thought the comments on ACF50 were a bit unfair. I always thought the point was it gets into the far away places where water might collect not be for something daft like protecting the underside of mudguards! I recall unbolting something from the Rebel and still finding some ACF50 lurking.

Okay, so you've polished up an alloy side cover to a mirror finish and you want it to stay that way. The choices would be lacquer or wax, not ACF50

Anyhoo, surely the first port of call for protecting ferrous metals would be... I dunno... paint
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

I do remember being a bit paranoid about the mudguards on my w650, took them off, cleaned them up, painted them w/ some hammerite type stuff, let it cure properly, then added some properly thick wax-oil (more like grease because it had "dried" in an open pot for ages). But that was all a bit OTT because the only time it would've got wet was if I'd got caught out. And how often would that happen. It wasn't like I was commuting on it, nor even riding it THAT often anyway.

In some ways, I do prefer a wax-oil sort of product over acf50 style applications because it's easier to see that it's still there. But I don't really bother with either on any of the bikes I ride. Instead, when they've been ridden in bad weather, I just wash them w/ clean water using a sponge, then dry them off a bit w/ some relatively clean rags and lastly just squirt some sort of wd40 product on, esp. headers. The KLX will probably get a hose-pipe job, when it comes back literally stem to stern in mud from green lanes. But even then, I'll just dry it off a bit and WD it. All the bikes have been fine over the last few years doing this sort of thing so to my mind that's all it takes.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Acf50 is a treatment and sacrificial. The wax is a barrier that won't get ride of surface rust.

Acf50 came from The aeronautical industry.
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[Tdibs]

Rather see a actual test than just his assumptions.
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[Ayrton]

He hasn't even done any tests or been using it for long, but still claims its the best product.
God I hate that guy, he really drags the video length out. Made sure to stick his affiliate link in the description too, which is probably the whole point of the video.

He went through all that trouble taking things off to spray them and then didn't even remove any rust he saw. He talks about there being "rust killers" in the mix which i'm always skeptical of since I dont believe they ever convert more than the surface layer.

[Nobby the Bastard]

Rust killers work fine. They actually convert the Rust to a different compound

Acf50 is better for surface rust.


My definition of surface rust may be different to yours.
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Triumph Sprint ST 1050

[Easy-X]

Obviously the swing arm on my XSR is an acknowledged weak point for rust but it's that white powdery corrosion on some of the alloy I find slightly annoying - the banjo ends on the brake cables for example.

I might buy a can of this wax stuff to do one half of the bike and ACF50 for the other
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[MCN]

paint works perfectly if the application is sterile and applied in dry atmosphere.
problems occur where the coating application is corrupted by incompetent manufacture and assembly, water or other chemicals/compounds.
And where the coating has been injured/disturbed by mechanical/chemical action.
And then there is galvanics between two dissimilar metals to consider.

Some anti-Corrosion compounds will mitigate in differing ways.
Ability to creep back into the area when damaged.
Ability to neutralise electrolysis/galvanic systems.
Ability to resist chemical/mechanical removal.

The white 'powder' seen on the surface of non ferrous alloys is rust. Oxidised alloy.

WaxOyl is very good at blocking moisture and killing existing rust.
I sprayed the underbits of my car and the invisible bits of my bikes two years ago. It stopped the visible corrosion. Rusted fasteners and powdery alloy. Under the seat and engine areas.

I AC-50ed everything reachable too.

The waxoyl resists washing better than the AC-50.
But AC-50 is simpler to apply.
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[Easy-X]

Ordered some of this miracle waxoil spray (put your money where your mouth is) on Sunday and the package turned up today. That's some quick service!

Amusing as it would be to try and do half & half with ACF50 I'll probably just stick with the more sane ACF50 for the tucked away stuff use the wax on the exposed surfaces. Got some nice weather coming up next week I'll give it a go then.
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[PotatoHead202...]

I think i'd rather cut my ears off than listen to his painfully annoying voice.

Having said that, I will have a look at the product albeit I currently use XCP Rust Blocker.
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[Hong Kong Phooey]

XCP and ACS TC200 do rather well in this seemingly unbiased test.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wBgF07I7TQM

Once my huge bottle of ACF50 is depleted I'll probably be swapping.
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[MarJay]

That guy has said a number of sus things previously, making claims that he can't possibly back up, and I've heard absolutely contradicted by people who were present at the time. I think he's just a hack who says what happens to be on his mind at the time. One of his claims involved corruption in the motorcycle print magazine industry, which seems rich when he's shilling for a product he hasn't scientifically tested, and has affiliate links for...

If you want a true test then you need to go to the Bennett's channel. The only thing they don't test is insurance, which is the thing they are obliquely promoting.

John Millbank of Bennetts tested a tonne of Anti Corrosion sprays, and the XCP one came out on top, with ACF50 very high in the running. They didn't test the one mentioned in the video the OP posted.

They showed their methods, and they were VERY thorough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBgF07I7TQM
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[Weisse Schlange]

Fllingham is an utter cock.

He thinks he's some sort of you tube royalty and hates having his bullshit pointed out to him.

Ex copper of course.
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[Easy-X]

[Hong Kong Phooey]

[MCN]

Pontificating Prick, is the term we are looking for.
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[wr6133]

Guy's a boring knob. He thinks booster plugs and iridium sparkplugs are performance upgrades. Needs to be high fived, with a brick, in the face.

However to the video. The push to get you to buy it from his Amazon link means it's some sort of paid promotion so of course he is going to claim it's great. If ACF50 offered him a free bottle and an affiliate link next week he'd be telling you that ACF50 is the only possible answer.

I'll stick with ACF for corrosion protection and when my bare ali looks a bit rough I'll carry on polishing it with Autosol.

[to v or not to v]

i guess im a bit of an oddity for liking the blokes videos then
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[MCN]

[MarJay]

[to v or not to v]

[Weisse Schlange]

[stinkwheel]

Most recently, I have been blackening bare steel fittings by heating them then applying used engine oil with a cloth. Seems to do a pretty good job of protecting them from corrosion.

Like this mild steel anchor-lifting ring I made for my Dads boat (yeah, I know it's wonky but I don't have an anvil with a beak, I think I did well getting the bends as good as they were).
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[Bhud]

Gah! I can't stand the Fillingham prat. What turned me off originally was his video saying speeders were all beta males (and he was an alpha male according to him, because he's an ex-cop and a tough guy with a "Paddington Bear stare", in his words...) I don't ride a sports bike but this was such a sad and pathetic bit of psychological "COPE", in newspeak. One of those guys whose an expert in psychology and everything else. Any prosecution he was behind should be reviewed, in an ideal world. He's got issues.

Unfortunately, Youtube is full of really awful channels which get suggested to you when you search for bike content, or even if you just watch one or 2 UK bike videos. And it is a UK thing, unfortunately. One of those channels is Fillingham. If you want to know which product will best polish your Enfield, you'd be better off reading Google reviews. His military watch and military pen and military canvas backpack because he's an ex-cop... ugh.

The subject of Youtube channels has come up on this forum before and I was pretty honest and outspoken about some of the attention-seekers out there. Unfortunately, it turned a bit negative.

We could do with another Youtube thread. Youtube has been getting better. Don't overlook the American Youtube bike channels, and hotrod channels.

[to v or not to v]

another youtuber with Enfields whos videos i liked watching was called
iRidetas. based in Tazmania.
he has quite a few other bikes too.
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Moto Guzzi V7.