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Abolish the licence fee and let them compete fairly with everyone else. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Ribenapigeon wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | Abolish the licence fee and let them compete fairly with everyone else. |
Well that would certainly force a few of its channels off the end of the plank. |
So be it. What is wrong with fair competition, and why do the BBC deserve special consideration? They are actually in a very good position to compete fairly. And anyway, they're hardly doing themselves any favours recently. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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In its own words, “The BBC exists to serve the public, and its mission is to inform, educate and entertain.”
Stop competing for sporting rights, the commercial channels will always push the cost to ludicrous levels, impacting other programming. Alternatively the government needs to gift broadcasting rights for national sporting events (Wimbledon, Wembley, The Lords/Edgbaston, The London Olympics…) to the national broadcaster. Stop paying six inarticulate ex-footballers to mutter cliches when two would do.
Focus on what it’s really good at; quality drama, nature programmes and the terrific technical expertise which the BBC can bring. Such programmes can be sold around the world and actually make money.
Drop some of the crap, mostly political “comedies.” Even as a non-Tory I’m bored of anti-Tory diatribes with barely any satire of Labour, the Lib Dems or the woke agenda when they’re all an open goal right now. I’m looking for impartiality generally. I’d like to see interviewers of the calibre of the Dimbleby’s, not Emily Maitlis or Laura Kuenssberg and their preachy, snidey, opinionated “reporting.” Keep Radio 4’s, “From Our Own Correspondent.”
Stop paying newsreaders a fortune to read an autocue aloud. As Jeremy Paxman said, that’s no skill. Likewise the likes of Gary Lineker, Jonathon Ross and radio DJs.
Increase focus on local news, which is another thing the BBC can do well. Cut “local weather.” Maintain a focus on children’s programmes.
All just off the top of my head. |
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Ribenapigeon wrote: |
The "just throw the beeb into the market" option is a bit of a cop out... Personally i would scrap the licence fee |
So what's the difference?
And you say "just throw" as if making it commercial were some terrible thing. Where is the cop out exactly? You're going to have to explain that one to me. It seems to be what more and more of the public want. And the BBC does actually make about £1bn in commercial interests a year already. Do you think they'd have trouble attracting investment and advertising revenue? If so, why?
Otherwise, if we are to keep it publicly funded, I think Jimbo has it about right. I really miss good documentaries, balanced discussion, good science programming etc. There was a time when no one could touch them for that sort of thing. But I don't see it happening. I think the culture it has now is just too embedded. If it is to win back its appeal, I think you'd have to start again from the ground up. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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MCN wrote: | Bereft of taxpayers cash the BBC would Flounder |
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Quote: | Drop some of the crap, mostly political “comedies.” Even as a non-Tory I’m bored of anti-Tory diatribes with barely any satire of Labour, the Lib Dems or the woke agenda when they’re all an open goal right now. I’m looking for impartiality generally. I’d like to see interviewers of the calibre of the Dimbleby’s, not Emily Maitlis or Laura Kuenssberg and their preachy, snidey, opinionated “reporting.” Keep Radio 4’s, “From Our Own Correspondent.” |
I agree. These so-called political comedies have become tedious because nobody is allowed to have an opinion other than that of the party line', which in the case of the Labour Party is a vaguely left-wing, watered down version of Tony Blair. My view is that all political comedies should have at least one person with different views, preferably someone from a completely different end of the spectrum, just to make it interesting. For example, the last time QT provided any sort of entertainment was when Nick Griffin appeared...
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The BBC should be either commercial, or government funded. Those are the only two acceptable options. Either its a service to which you are free to subscribe if you wish, or it's free at point of use. The license fee is, in effect, a tax on the ownership of a television and used to bully the elderly and other vulnerable groups.
That moral issue aside, if they ARE going to receive funding with no link to viewer satisfaction, then they very minimum standard they should uphold is "responsible and unbiased" and they are not. I won't head much further down that path except to say that ALL media and journalism in this country needs a severe overhaul.
Beyond that, I'd like to see a cap on salaries. Jonathon Ross is not a talent frankly. Nor are most pundits. Spend the available money in a way that generates quality programming.
Regular scheduled news is a good thing. The same stories and headlines 5 times a day is lazy and unhelpful. BBC radio is especially bad for this.
One thing I think the BBC actually do pretty well is drama series.
Otherwise I have to agree with Chickenstrip about a ground up rebuild to get back to good documentaries, science programs etc.
In its present state, I wouldn't miss it if it floundered to be honest, it is, in general, deeply disappointing. |
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Coz traditionally, tv networks are not remembered for playing fair.
BBC would be swimming with sharks when their free funding is removed.
It would be heavily desiccated in order for anything of It to survive.
It's supposed to provide service to all communities but short of coin all that regional shite would be dropped or significantly curtailed.
The Horns of the Highland Cattle would have to be Drawn in, so to speak. |
I don't think that need be the case. It has everything in place to succeed as far as infrastructure is concerned, whereas GB News had to start from scratch. It is the people at the top that are the problem.
They might have to shrink a bit if they lost public funding, but if they got back to the kind of programming I suggested, I think they would do well. But they need to get the political bias in check, both in their programming and their staff. Quality. That should be their hallmark. They once knew how to do it. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Yes, but my point was about what they could be. If they don't change fundamentally, then I agree, they are probably finished. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Polarbear wrote: | I don’t think the ending of the licence fee will happen. Too many powerful people with fingers in the trough |
Doesn't matter in the end. People will stop paying it and seek alternatives. They already are. As the BBC continues to decline, the alternatives look more and more viable. There'll be nothing left to be had from having a finger in that trough, it'll just dry up. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I'm happy to pay the licence fee as is or via a monthly subscription.
What galls me about other subscription channels is that you pay and you STILL get bleedin' adverts,,
Watching Spiral (French but with input from BBC4 on iplayer recently was worth the licence fee on its own.
Agree with dumping the high-cost sports stuff and Linekar can f*ck off. Bring back Rallycross or some other entertaining but low rent motorsport that isn't F1.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 305 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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