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Posted: 20:36 - 28 Jun 2021 Post subject: |
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | But that's your idea, not mine. |
I assumed you were referring to the old idea that speed limits were based upon the speed at which a significant percentage of drivers considered acceptable. Maybe that’s still true and the population has been beaten into slow submission by fearmongering and virtue signalling. |
I was thinking more along the lines of no matter who you vote for, there are certain policies you end up having to put up with that weren't priorities in your voting choice, and some of them seem to be adopted by all parties. So if everybody voted on the basis of other issues that they saw as more important, how do the majority control the smaller stuff that although maybe not as great considerations, when you add up a tendency of the over-protection of the nanny state, can still make huge differences to the quality of people's lives. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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stevo123 Nitrous Nuisance
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Ayrton World Chat Champion
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This isn't far from me and I've had lots of people mention it the last few days, people are really pissed off I thought they might put a 50 in because it's quite a steep bit of road if it's anything like the old one. The environmental thing is just bullshit and Labour has been doing a good job of fucking up our infrastructure in the name of being environmentally friendly the last few years. |
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NorthantsPete Two Stroke Sniffer
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stinkwheel Bovine Proctologist
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I'm wondering how many of these 50 limits and particularly blanket 20 zones have actual legal traffic orders in place. I though there were fairly strict rules for where you can impose a blanket 20 zone, there needs to be a valid reason for doing it.
I heard of one case where they put in a 50 limit with speed cameras, then had to take them down again because someone challenged a FPN on the basis there was no traffic order in place. The council couldn't produce one in court and the magistrate ruled no case to answer.
If I get done in one of these zones, I will most certainly be checking before accepting any sort of penalty. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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chickenstrip |
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Posted: 12:29 - 29 Jun 2021 Post subject: |
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There is no end to risk reduction until everyone is safely locked up in their own homes. Oh, wait... ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Tdibs Traffic Copper
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Feasty wrote: | They've had the M1 past Meadowhall (Sheffield) at a 60mph limit for quite a while now due to 'reducing pollution', though I suspect all the traffic slowing down for the 3 sets of cameras then speeding up again immediately afterwards is going to increase pollution than if they were left to continue on their way at normal motorway speeds.
I think the pollution excuse is bollocks anyway, the less time you spend in the 'zone' and on the road, the less pollution you are creating... obvs! |
Quote: | ir pollution in parts of Sheffield this April was double the legal limit. This means everyone – adults, children, babies – smoked the equivalent of a cigarette a day |
Quote: | The Clean Air Zone focusses only on traffic-related pollution. Studies have found that as much as 90% of the day is spent indoors where the levels of some air pollutants are often higher than outside. And only 12% of PM emissions and 34% (80% roadside) of NOx emission are from traffic. Wouldn’t it be better to ban selling wood burners and solid fuels? |
https://grantham.sheffield.ac.uk/air-pollution-in-sheffield/
These are just the easiest band aid 'fixes' I guess. I mean, I dont think going faster emits less than trying to achieve peak mpg at 60mph.
These limits are just poor solutions though really, frustrating to the population while probably having a negligible reduction in pollution in totality of the countries output. ____________________ Previous : 09 Vanvan 125| 02' Sv650s || Current: 1999 Xj600n | 1992 DR650 RSE | 2005 Fazer 1000 |
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Yes, it's a sign of things to come.
A local road heads towards a village, that's now a village in name only.
I remember when it was an NSL road. Then they reduced it to 50.
They built some really cramped little flats. The pub closed, and the proprietor sold the land to a developer. Then, yet more flats were built. I think the people who moved in there appreciated the greenery, and nice places to walk. At the time there was also a patch of common land, and horses would be left to graze there. The roads were lined with blackberry bushes.
Families moved in, and they spread out. A local school's capacity was increased, massively. Then, of course, they needed to cross the road. The speed limit was reduced to 40, and a traffic light for pedestrians was put in the middle, so that people could cross the road and access a park.
The common land, where the horses were, was then levelled. It was filled with builders and engineers, who installed smart motorway installations for the motorway alongside it. Lots and lots of traffic, and the road needed resurfacing. The council reduced half of it to 30mph, and installed speed bumps. The other half is still 40mph.
Needless to say, the place to which the road leads is just a seamless suburban sprawl now. It needs a sign to tell you it's a "village". This whole process took about 10 years. |
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That’s the one the OP was referring to.
Do I assume once all the sheeple have bought a white goods battery powered people-mover all the limits will go back up to 60/70 or even 80? |
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Posted: 12:40 - 30 Jun 2021 Post subject: Re: Is this the sign of things to come? |
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You think things suck. Then they get worse and you long for the previous levels of shite. |
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One good thing about lowering speed limits is that it takes longer before you reach the traffic jam... ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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Technically, we do. Whether certain things happen to weaken it or not is another question.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 291 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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