Second thought of the day - tinted visors

[TravisBickle]

I have a tinted visor and I understand if you have one marked for daytime use only you are obliged to carry a spare clear one. That's what my riding instructor told me anyway so I've no reason to disbelieve this is the case.

Bearing in mind it's legal to ride open face helmets with no visor, but I think the legality is you have to wear eye protection such as glasses or goggles? Would you not be covered just carrying a pair of goggles under your seat just on the off-chance unlikely scenario you got pulled over and challenged by the police for not having a spare clear visor on you?
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[chickenstrip]

I used dark tint visors for years, never worried about the legalities, never been pulled or even ticked off for it. I only carried a clear alternative if it was either likely or possible that I may still be out when it begins to get dark.
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[KiwiBob]

Its not compulsory to wear eye protection when riding a motorcycle.

If you do then it must meet British Standard and display a BSI Kitemark.

Or meet a European standard offering at least the same safety and protection as the British Standard and carry a mark equivalent to the BSI Kitemark.

If the visor lets through 50% or more of the light its legal.

A tinted visor is only illegal when being used. So, having a tinted visor fitted to your helmet in the raised position is perfectly legal.

[Nobby the Bastard]

Using a visor without a bs or equivalent stamp isn't illegal. Selling one is.
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[Zen Dog]

You have to wear a helmet legally, but you don't have to wear eye protection, it's just "advisable". So you don't need to carry goggles even with an open face. And, late at night, caught out with a dark visor, just remove it and legally, you're good. Rule 84 - https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/rules-for-motorcyclists.html

As for the whole tinted visor thing, some opinions here - https://www.mcncompare.com/motorbike-insurance-guides/tinted-visors-the-law-for-motorcyclists/

There's legality, and then reality. I always carried a clear visor because I wanted to be able to see clearly. That's also the reason I used a tinted one. I've had a copper (who had pulled us over for a bollocking) specifically tell me he wasn't interested in my tinted visor, so they know it's all bullshit as much as we do, although if they're throwing the book at someone, it's available in the book I suppose.
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[recman]

I have a Tranny visor.

[Freddyfruitba...]

[Nobby the Bastard]

So my car with it's ever so slightly tinted front window is illegal every time I drive it at night? MCN is talking shit on a lot of that btw.
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[Zen Dog]

[t121anf]

Car don’t require a windscreen, look at caterhams, Renault spider etc

[xX-Alex-Xx]

Can’t be any worse than half the tw@s around here with clear windscreens and closed eyes.
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[FretGrinder]

[Kentol750]

Dark visors can save lives!
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[recman]

[chickenstrip]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Those rugby players can be a little insistent at times.
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[chickenstrip]

[recman]

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[Hong Kong Phooey]

[grr666]

I had a manic ride home after watching the sun start to go down whilst sat at a pub having a pint after a nice ride out...
Then I remembered my (not road legal) super black visor. It was kind of the opposite of a vampire trying to get back to his
coffin before the sun came up. Was a very 'spirited' journey to say the least as the light steadily faded.
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[Easy-X]

I got caught out in Cornwall except it wasn't moths it was incessant drizzle (literally riding through a cloud.)

I was thinking an emergency set of goggles in the toolkit might help, those ones that are made out of a flat sheet of clear plastic and clip together to get the shape... WW2 tank commander?

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/attachments/cloth-headgear/1045837d1486569141-rommels-goggles-erwin-20rommel.jpg
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[MarJay]

[stinkwheel]

So much misinformation.

No requirement for any eye protection at all.

Primary eye protection. MUST have kitemark or equivalent CE standard marking. It must allow a minimum of 50% light transmission.

That's primary. Your secondary eye protection can be whatever the hell you want. Hence integrated sun visors, wrap-around shades etc.

My understanding with pinlocks is because they are inside the visor and are technically removable, they are not primary eye protection and therefore a huge loophole.

I personally always wear a set of safety specs anyway, either clear for night, yellow tint for low light or sunglasses. I often ride with my visor up anyway because visors are usually either steamed up or covered with flies and road dirt. The glasses mean I can pop the visor even in the rain and at least see.

I'm currently favouring bolle shades which are pretty stylish and are incidentally, CE marked eye protection anyway. Also less than a tenner.
https://cdn.aws.toolstation.com/images/141020-UK/800/52851.jpg

I have heard of incidents of overly zealous police doing someone for wearing normal (Non-CE marked) shades with an open face lid. Which while within the letter of the law, is a dick move of the highest order.
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