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Get it running properly in standard form before trying to tune it. They are pretty poky wee bikes. Probably the quickest of the 100cc models.
You should hit 70mph on a standard model. (hit, not necessarily sustain)
So decoke engine and exhaust, check ring gaps and rebore if necessary, plugs, air filter. Maybe new reed valves. If the exhaust has been fucked with, put it back to normal. Run it on top quality 2-t oil. Oil the chain.
Should do wheelies. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles. |
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RXS100 is an overgrown moped.. Lot s of tuning information here ..
https://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Category:Performance_Tuning
BUT you WILL have to invest significant time and energy in getting teh results you desire.
No one is going to tell you to by this jet or file that carb slide or exhaust port, or disc valve. It's hard graft and requires a lot of background reading if you don't want to cock it up. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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I should also mention when you tune a 2-stroke, you usually steal from Peter to pay Paul. You make the engine have more power but over a very small part of the rev range at the expense of them running like crap elsewhere in the rev range. Many 2t racers won't idle at all.
At the peak of aircooled strokers, if you let the revs drop too low, they would seize, if you let them get too high, they would seize. If you listen to sound clips of them going over the mountain on the IOM when they still had a 50cc class, you'll hear them alternating between wide open throttle and nothing. The riders aren't even looking at the road, they don't need to slow down for any of the corners. They have their head over the clocks watching an exhaust manifold temperature gauge they're trying to keep in the green bit in the middle. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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I would fully expect a cone filter on an RXS100 to make it run like a pile of crap. They did quite a lot of work on pressure waves on that bike. It's the one with the now legendary "boost bottle" equipped intake system.
Almost certainly better to retain the airbox assembly, but you can try and find out.
What you have done is the only garaunteed route to more power on any vehicle, which is increasing the engine capacity. "There's no replacement for displacement". ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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| NorthantsPete wrote: | I guess something like this will give it a bit extra, nto a lot but 15cc is 15% increase!
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15cc is a 15% increase in cc not power. I used to love tinkering with two strokes, top tips are make sure there is a breaker nearby who keeps bits for whichever machine you play with and, as Stink mentioned, start a slush fund for all the bits you'll be collecting on for your trial and error process.
Golden rule number one for beginners to two strokes, especially those on a budget, stick with OEM spec parts and get it running nicely before you mess with 'upgrades'. I can guarantee, as can thousands of have-a-go-heroes before you, that you will be banging your head in frustration if you upgrade before learning the basics, what you gain in getting a simple setup you lose in needing to be some kind of black magic artist, unless you have bottomless pockets.... ____________________ Make mine a Corona. |
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In fairness, the above is very valid. Pretty much all 2-strokes are going for stupid money where people of my generation are trying to re-live their youth.
Something that is pervasive in this market is people want them as clean and original as possible. An attitude probably as unhelpful as the tune the nuts off it direction because they park them in their living room and ride it to the MOT once a year and spend the rest of the time polishing it and posting pictures on instagram.
However, if you put your energy into cleaning it up and making it as original as possible, not only will it run well, you could also make some money when it's time to change-up. If you get the right buyer after it with their jam-jar bottom nostalgia glasses on, there's no telling what they'd be prepared to pay out for it. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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| Mylarballoonsfan wrote: | Go see Mick Abbey and get him to tune it and make a pipe to suit the tune. Should be able to get circa 20bhp and no penalty in rideability.
VM26/28 carbs fit the standard intake rubber (I’ve seen a choke side carb off a 31K used) and use a foam Ramair filter, not a cone.
It would be a giggle as they weigh fuck all to start with.
There’s a lot of people on here with no 2T development experience will tell you it’s a bad thing cause they come from the world of sticking Microns on 125’s and guessing the jetting. |
Thanks, finally an answer to the question. I wasnt really here for a guilt trip of how Id ruined a £900 bike with a few parts and labour, more that Ive seen tuned ones, doing silly speeds and interested how they got there.
I have faster bikes, this isnt my first bike at all, my other bike, an RG125 is plenty fast however id like this one to be able to go along at 70 without the wind slowing me down so much i can barely do 50, the RG will do 90+, i havent pushed it, id never want that on this RXS as its one up from a bicycle.
Ill do both, tune this and get a big bike training/test in the near future, i can do both because Im not 17, i dont need to put my money towards anything.
Ill get the bigger bike... and still keep this for whizzing around on as many have said they do as its just a bit of fun.
In fact i parked yesterday in the pub and a guy wanted to buy it off me..hes got harleys and allsorts.... so theres plenty time for that later.
I was getting ready to call on the millyard for a hand as hes got that give it a go attitude, but ill have a chat to Mick ____________________ ==========================
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Thanks, finally an answer to the question. I wasnt really here for a guilt trip of how Id ruined a £900 bike with a few parts and labour, more that Ive seen tuned ones, doing silly speeds and interested how they got there.
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RXS100s? Where??
I've not seen one in years, in any state of tune, sadly. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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Well the 'Kenny Rogers' look-alike looks cool, but that looks like it has a basic micron on it, I'd be curious to know it that helps much. The chromed one is not for me.
If you are serious about this and have 400-500 quid to splash on it then Mick Abbey could possibly make you a pipe and see to the head/barrel. No disc valve on the RXS obvs. Ideally he'd want the whole bike up in Teeside to run it on his dyno... unless hes's done one before.
I'm pretty sure he's done YB100 motors for the FS1-E upgrade mob. ____________________ Now: A100, GT250A, XJ598, FZ750
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| A100man wrote: | Well the 'Kenny Rogers'  look-alike looks cool, but that looks like it has a basic micron on it, I'd be curious to know it that helps much. The chromed one is not for me.
If you are serious about this and have 400-500 quid to splash on it then Mick Abbey could possibly make you a pipe and see to the head/barrel. No disc valve on the RXS obvs. Ideally he'd want the whole bike up in Teeside to run it on his dyno... unless hes's done one before.
I'm pretty sure he's done YB100 motors for the FS1-E upgrade mob. |
Mick’s done RXS’s, I didn’t pull the 20bhp figure from thin air. But yes he’d likely want the bike as a template to make the pipe and obviously dyno test it when finished. His pipes are fabricated the old fashioned way, not CNC formed so even though he’ll have the key dimensions he needs the bike in front of him to achieve best fit. ____________________ Be a REAL MAN! |
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The last post was made 4 years, 194 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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