Coronavirus

[chickenstrip]

[Easy-X]

Personal responsibility? I thought that was being actively bred out of the population?! I read it on a website somewhere...

TBF I don't envy the government's position: lay out a reasoned and nuanced response and fair number of people won't understand it and a sizeable minority will maliciously misinterpret it. Go for a simple "one size fits all" approach and anyone with half a brain cries "help! help! I'm being oppressed!"
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[Nobby the Bastard]

Yes, but Flu hasn't caused in the region of 150 thousand excess deaths in the UK caused by COVID despite the huge restrictions to try and combat it in recent history.

The last time there was flu deaths on the scale similar to COVID there were was no yearly vaccine to try and combat it.
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[chickenstrip]

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

This morning I had my second jab. All very professional as before; makes you proud. Give it a few days and I’ll be invincible, and possibly with a new superpower.

[Kawasaki Jimbo]

staff back in offices by September

This seems to be the way. Working from home (WFH) has been handy if I needed to build a spreadsheet, Word document or workplan without other workplace-related distractions, or if I’m expecting an Amazon delivery, but the option was always available anyway, albeit not as readily.

Nevertheless, I’ve been on-site throughout the pandemic except for the occasional day WFH, and in fact I’ve tended to think those constantly home-based have had it easier.

However, I had hoped that a lack of centricity might ultimately cascade into the housing market, for example. It seems any perceived WFH advantages identified during the pandemic are going to be rejected when we get back to normal. Are there any lessons for work post-pandemic?

[Hong Kong Phooey]

[Nobby the Bastard]

Flu doesn't kill 30 to 40 thousand a year. Death rate in the UK is in the 450-500k a year. Last year (2020) there were 100k excess deaths on top of that bearing in mind COVID wasnt in the UK to any appreciable amount until March.

Thats 100k extra deaths in 9 months.
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[Nobby the Bastard]

[chickenstrip]

[Nobby the Bastard]

[Nobby the Bastard]

What was the average death rate in 2014 compared to the 10 years before and after?
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[chickenstrip]

[Nobby the Bastard]

I agree we are out of the worst of it but by the same token I don't see the media scare-mongering.

There may be a slight delay on the full relaxation but that will depend on whether the usual delay on cases being followed by hospitals being overwhelmed that happened with the two prior waves happens.
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[chickenstrip]

There is no sign of "hospitals being overwhelmed", and currently no risk of it. 5000 CASES in the latest "wave". Not deaths and serious illness. CASES.
And the media most definitely ARE scare-mongering with this "third wave" nonsense.

Frankly Nobby, you, like the media, are full of shit

And what is the rate of flu mutation? Do enlighten me
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THERE'S MILLIONS OF CHICKENSTRIPS OUT THERE!

[UncleFester]

I suspect some of the concern is that the vaccinated can still carry / spread it although they may not catch it.

So if you have enough spreaders and enough unvaccinated then i guess it's possible for a decent 3rd wave.

A little caution will harm no one.
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[trevor saxe-coburg-gotha]

One interesting upshot of the virus is an extremely dramatic downturn in the number of cases of bacterial gastroenteritis and similar. Now, it's true that this will be partly (largely?) down to the huge drop in restaurant trade, etc. - but it's also due to massively increased use of hand sanitizer across the population. Cryptosporidium, norovirus and salmonella are on the extinction list! Of course, I'm sure they'd bounce right back in the right circumstances. That said, a lot of the newly acquired hygiene habits courtesy of Covid will continue long into the future, I think. Some reckon that the fall in deaths from food poisoning are quite significant, and a serious off-set to those of Covid. Not sure how much substance there is to that speculation though.
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[Hong Kong Phooey]

[doggone]

They like adding two years of covid to make a bigger number.

1999/2000 and 2004/5
Had much higher overall mortality due to flu, but we hardly even noticed.

https://i.postimg.cc/xCS4fK9h/covid.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/xCS4fK9h/covid.jpg

[chickenstrip]

[to v or not to v]

[chickenstrip]

I don't think many people are being fooled. Whilst things did get quite bad for a while, I also think we all remember how those 'emergency hospitals', or whatever they were called - Nightingale hospitals? - were never used.
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THERE'S MILLIONS OF CHICKENSTRIPS OUT THERE!

[UncleFester]

Down here at least they did indeed have problems with morgues being full. Hospitals with chilled HGV sat around being used as spare morgue capacity whilst the funeral places caught up. Much like Supermarket supply chain management, this stuff has been designed to run very efficiently but not at the level of 'input' that has been required during Covid.

The Nightingale thing is neither here nor there, they never had enough staff to run those at even minimum capacity. Every friend I've got who works in the NHS said they have spent the last year and a bit running at or above capacity plus a bit and they are all exhausted. Either from the hours or the restrictions placed on how they can work.

You can't make that bit up.

However as Chickenman says, those times should be over and with careful removal of restrictions combined with a massively successful vaccination program - we should not need to go back to how things have been.
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[chickenstrip]

[UncleFester]

What heats my urine are the idiots who still reckon this was all some kind of massive hoax / ruse.

I'd be the first to agree some folk got rich out of this but when do they not. Bent politicians, no surprise. Media without a single shred of truth in a story - shocker.

But those facts do not alter the other facts.

In total agreement that this has highlighted some ongoing issues and in some respects as you and others have said, we've come out of it better in a number of areas as a result of dealing with it.
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