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*sigh*
Both of my bikes are basically pre-90s.
How is this going to cause me problems?
(words of one syllable or less, thank you)
Where on the pump will it say "super unleaded"?
FFS. ____________________ Not nearly as interesting in real life. |
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hellkat wrote: | * sigh*
Both of my bikes are basically pre-90s.
How is this going to cause me problems?
(words of one syllable or less, thank you)
Where on the pump will it say "super unleaded"?
FFS. |
I think if your bike is pre 1990 then it will be a good move to replace all the fuel tubing. Since 2011 all vehicle fuel tubing has been Ethanol
resistant (not absolute proof). There is also a question about floats in carburettors if they are made from plastic they may be damaged., Also float needles may need changing regularly.
If you bikes are injected, the seals on the injectors may decompose earlier than before. Also with injected bikes the fuel hoses are subject to higher pressures so it advisable to replace them regularly.
I filled my car up this afternoon and the pumps had changed to E10 (95 octane) with the option of E5 (97 Octane). There was no mention of the word 'Super Unleaded' on the pump. |
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hellkat wrote: | Both of my bikes are basically pre-90s. |
Use them regularly, don't let them sit for weeks with fuel in the tank (Ethanol attracts water, which causes rust & gunk in your tank). Use fuel with a lower percentage of ethanol in it.
Unless you fancy replacing fuel lines and carb parts, or getting into the mucky bit involved in removing the ethanol, that's about all you can do.
I know people that run early VFR's (86-89), original fuel lines and have no issue, but they don't stand around and look pretty, they get ridden a couple of times a week.
If the bike *is* going to stand around, drain the tank (yes, you can do that, you're not that bad).
hellkat wrote: | Where on the pump will it say "super unleaded"? |
Use whatever "premium" fuel is at the garage for the immediate future, that will be the stuff with a lower percentage of Ethanol in it. This almost certainly will change in the future. ____________________ '98 VFR800 (touring) - '12 VFR800 Crosrunner (Commuting) - '01 KDX220 (Big Green Antisocial Machine) |
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hellkat wrote: | * sigh*
Both of my bikes are basically pre-90s.
How is this going to cause me problems?
(words of one syllable or less, thank you)
Where on the pump will it say "super unleaded"?
FFS. |
This fuel additive was mentioned on the other E10 thread - seems to help prevent E10 related damage on older vehicles - could be worth checking out?
https://www.frost.co.uk/ethomix-corrosion-inhibitor-additive-ethanol-protection/#reviews |
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For the third or forth time Yes, Ethanol has a thing for water but unless you're going to lay up your bike for months and months not draining the fuel tank (which is a safety issue in itself) it's not a major factor.
Metal corrosion due to Ethanol is also a thing but going from E5 to E10 is not going to drastically accelerate things to the point where it outweighs say... I dunno... checking you have oil!
Of immediate concern might be plastic fuel tanks but that topic should have been put to bed when E5 came out.
Probably the only tangible change would be some old bike with gaskets, o-rings, seals, etc. that don't like Ethanol. These things were already degrading with E5 but if it was an occasional jaunt bike one might be forgiven for not noticing any drastic failure. E10 will only serve to accelerate the degradation. i.e. crying over E10 is pointless, whatever problem you suddenly have would have just taken longer to appear with E5. ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 209 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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