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Posted: 10:30 - 06 Aug 2021 Post subject: Apple to scan iPhones for child sex abuse images |
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Apple to scan iPhones for child sex abuse images
Obviously anything that catches pedos I'm all for however even I can see that this could be manipulated to look for other things as insinuated in the article.
Of course there is 'If you've nothing to hide' and I don't know how easily this could be set up to check for other things. BLM, Stormfront, Muslim terrorists etc. The possibilities are endless.
I'm sure there are already many agencies using this sort of thing whether openly or covertly and it isn't going to go away but Apple openly admitting they are applying tracking type software to their phones is a first is it not?
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Assume anything that in any way could connect to the Internet - now or at some point in the future - is effectively public information and you won't go too far wrong. The Internet is basically the 21st Century version of the Catholic omniscient God ____________________ Husqvarna Vitpilen 401, Yamaha XSR700, Honda Rebel, Yamaha DT175, Suzuki SV650 (loan) Fazer 600, Keeway Superlight 125, 50cc turd scooter |
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Ste wrote: | Im-a-Ridah wrote: | Either way I expect a LOT of people to get caught from this. Unintended consequences could be an issue. Imagine someone has a couple of dodgy images from the list, house gets raided, inevitable divorce, 15% suicide rate, both sides pushed into a precarious financial state, and much worse outcome for their kids. |
Consequences of having child porn do include things like houses being raided, family being less than happy to hear about the dodgy images, etc etc etc.
The child abuse images Apple will be looking won't be the type of images that you could unintentional come across and accidentally have on your phone.
Do people who've got such images on their phone not deserve to be caught regardless of how many images they've got? |
Child abuse images include any image on the IWF list so any sexual or nude image of a person under 18, who appears to be under 18 or any cartoon depicting someone under 18.
They can definitely be caught, but this is suppopsedly about "harm reduction" or so the police claim. If thats the case then you have to consider the harms caused by the raiding team on innocent third parties. Remember their wife and kids didn't view the child porn!
Also racists, sexists, homophobes, people who misgender and deadname, people who question cornavirus and vaccine, people who vote UKIP or Brexit Party or Trump all deserve to be raided too right? I'm sure the IWF would agree that all of these are a threat to children too! |
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Im-a-Ridah wrote: |
Child abuse images include any image on the IWF list so any sexual or nude image of a person under 18, who appears to be under 18 or any cartoon depicting someone under 18.
They can definitely be caught, but this is suppopsedly about "harm reduction" or so the police claim. If thats the case then you have to consider the harms caused by the raiding team on innocent third parties. Remember their wife and kids didn't view the child porn!
Also racists, sexists, homophobes, people who misgender and deadname, people who question cornavirus and vaccine, people who vote UKIP or Brexit Party or Trump all deserve to be raided too right? I'm sure the IWF would agree that all of these are a threat to children too! |
The same can be said of any crime, whenever someone commits a crime their family is affected. Just because the person viewing or downloading the child porn has an innocent family, it does not mean that they should not feel the full weight of the law. In fact it may make their family safer if they are caught and stopped, especially if they have young children.
As far as I am aware, questioning Coronavirus or the vaccine or voting for Trump, Brexit or UKIP party is not illegal and to suggest that they pose a comparable risk to children as child porn is utterly ridiculous. Racists, sexists, Homophobes and Transphobes may or may not be breaking the law, if they are then this should also be investigated. ____________________ Current bike: ST1100 "Big Red" |
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martin734 wrote: |
The same can be said of any crime, whenever someone commits a crime their family is affected. Just because the person viewing or downloading the child porn has an innocent family, it does not mean that they should not feel the full weight of the law. In fact it may make their family safer if they are caught and stopped, especially if they have young children.
As far as I am aware, questioning Coronavirus or the vaccine or voting for Trump, Brexit or UKIP party is not illegal and to suggest that they pose a comparable risk to children as child porn is utterly ridiculous. Racists, sexists, Homophobes and Transphobes may or may not be breaking the law, if they are then this should also be investigated. |
In the case of a genuine paedophile then yes the children may well be safer. But most of the cases picked up are likely to be more borderline. Of course its very unlikely they would ever be convicted because the CPS won't think its worth bothering, but the damage to that family is still done. That said even genuine paedophiles get very little punishment.
It's not up to you though, it's up to groups like the IWF. We shall see what they consider unacceptable as the scheme "expands and evolves" to use Apple's terminology. Not that its my problem anyway, I don't have an iPhone |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 233 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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