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Islander wrote: | Nurse! He's hiding his meds again! |
Islander, what will be the economic repercussions of this pandemic, or will there be no problems to face? I'm not talking about you as an individual, but for national economies. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Posted: 21:43 - 06 Aug 2021 Post subject: |
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Hmmmm
Looks like our (Brexit) stockpile of tinned & dried food - that you all scoffed at - will come in handy after all. Even if most of it is past its “best before date”.
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Tracey Suntan-King wrote: | Hmmmm
Looks like our (Brexit) stockpile of tinned & dried food - that you all scoffed at - will come in handy after all. Even if most of it is past its “best before date”.
How d’ya like them (tinned) apples losers? |
Tinned and dried food? Pfft. If you've got enough of a loo roll stockpile, you can survive even the zombie apocalypse ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: |
We haven’t exhausted the supply of cats and dogs yet.
(For food, not loo roll.) |
Don't knock alternative uses for things
Washable too ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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I admit I’ve been concerned by the polarisation of politics but I think we’re a long way from Spanish Civil War levels; the left has gone further than the right. I used to think of myself as a Socialist but they don’t seem to represent decent, hard-working families anymore |
And the right has been pulled further left with them. Apart from the hordes of far right nazis that are everywhere, obviously
McCarthyism in reverse. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Anyway, I don't think we're so much on the verge of societal collapse as a re-engineering of society. The question is, can society be artificially re-engineered successfully? I can't think of anyone I'd trust to decide how to do it. Those who want to try should probably be locked tightly away from society. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Kawasaki Jimbo wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: | a re-engineering of society. |
I’m not so sure. For example, Covid’s ‘working from home’ had the potential to revolutionise commuting, and therefore the road/rail network and even the housing market. Employers hailed this new way of working and talked of insights to be carried forward. Those of us nominated as “critical workers” and attending site were hoping our roles were being re-evaluated and respected, and there was some of that, but now they’re steering all staff back to site-working. It feels like we’ll be going right back to normal. A missed opportunity if societal re-engineering was anyone’s aim. |
I think the re-engineering comes more out of climate change panic. Covid is a short term and minor thing by comparison if the climate change pushers are to be believed. And it is clear that they are being believed, wholesale, whatever any of us as individuals think.
Look at how academics and scientists have taken worst case scenarios so seriously, and governments have jumped on that end of the scale to forge Covid policy. How will things look if they do the same with the potential horrors of climate change? How much further could that prompt governments to go? Even though there is much disagreement over how severe things will get, those who say things aren't so bad are ignored. If you're making policy for the masses, how much does the responsibility weigh on your shoulders? But on the other side of the coin, how much are the potential disasters of overcompensation being considered? I see little of that side of the discussion among policy makers, as we didn't with Covid. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Covid is absolutely nothing in the overall scheme of things. According to Worldometer it has killed 4,294,317 which is bugger all in a world population of 7.5 billion.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Climate change has the potential to be horrendous. If large swathes of the world where food is grown become less productive or even infertile then the mass migration to more temperate climates will make the immigrant 'swarm' of the past few years seem like nothing.
Will it happen, yes it will. There is no way we can stop it now. Maybe we can slow it down to give more time to put in contingency plans but in the end it going to happen. Will it mean the end of society as we know it? Probably not but a lot of people will die, and by a lot I would expect that to be in the billions.
When this happens people in the more temperate regions will be welcoming the migrants with guns, not food packages. ____________________ Triumph Trophy Launch Edition |
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Lord Percy wrote: | chickenstrip wrote: |
And the right has been pulled further left with them. |
lol
I guess the mass privatisation, the funding cuts, anti-immigrant rhetoric, windrush scandal, our tommeh, hard Brexit, oh and a full decade of Conservative government victories, just didn't happen in your world. |
I was thinking about a longer term view than that, since the 60s. And not just government, but western society generally. In a way, conservatism has been left behind - certainly what you think of as conservatism. All those things you mention above are not the views and perspective of the majority.
So how come the Tories still get elected? If conservative ideals are no longer relevant, they must have adopted something else. Do you think they'd still get elected if they had moved even further right? Do you actually think you live in a nation of fascists?
It does make me laugh though when folks like you and Nobby attack the Tories as if it's any water off my back
My advice is to forget ideologies and look for what works. And society needs more than investment in libraries and youth centres.
I'll tell you what though. If you think society will get what it needs from ANY kind of government, prepare for a life of perpetual disappointment. ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Oh, and btw:
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I guess the mass privatisation, the funding cuts, anti-immigrant rhetoric, windrush scandal, our tommeh, hard Brexit, oh and a full decade of Conservative government victories, just didn't happen in your world. |
No, they didn't, in a very real sense. Now see if you can go figure out why not ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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And here's another question to ask yourself: if Labour had been in government for the last ten years, what do you think you'd be complaining about now? ____________________ Chickenystripgeezer's Biking Life (Latest update 19/10/18) Belgium, France, Italy, Austria tour 2016 Picos de Europa, Pyrenees and French Alps tour 2017 Scotland Trip 1, now with BONUS FEATURE edit, 5/10/19, on page 2 Scotland Trip 2 Luxembourg, Black Forest, Switzerland, Vosges Trip 2017
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 2 years, 255 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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